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uummm. No it's not. It's the Variable Inertia Charger System or VICS system that the screws come out of.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
uummm. No it's not. It's the Variable Inertia Charger System or VICS system that the screws come out of.

Umm what part of documentation do you not understand?

I have it in writing. When I find it I can scan it.

Outside of running your mouth what can you prove?
 
ok, simmer, simmmmmmmmerrrrrrrr.

So he / she had a one off problem, no big deal... But THIS thread is abt the VICS. I haven't heard ANY problems with the VTCS until now, other than it being in the way lol
 
Mazda P5 driver said:
Umm what part of documentation do you not understand?

I have it in writing. When I find it I can scan it.

Outside of running your mouth what can you prove?


So you are telling me that the screws fall out of the "Variable tumbler control solenoid". How do screws fall out of a solenoid mounted on top of the outside of the intake manifold? In fact that solenoid doesn't even have screws. If you meant " Variable Tumbler Control System" then maybe you would have some crediability. But you didn't, you are just quoting some tech. said. I garuntee he didn't even know the difference between the two. Not that this really matters in any way.

Why not try looking at some of my posts, find one I was wrong in.
 
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resubscribing to watch.

keep in mind BlkZoom has much more credibility in this situation, so be prepared to have hard proof if youre going to call him out.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
So you are telling me that the screws fall out of the "Variable tumbler control solenoid". How do screws fall out of a solenoid mounted on top of the outside of the intake manifold? In fact that solenoid doesn't even have screws. If you meant " Variable Tumbler Control System" then maybe you would have some crediability. But you didn't, you are just quoting some tech. said. I garuntee he didn't even know the difference between the two. Not that this really matters in any way.

Why not try looking at some of my posts, find one I was wrong in.

semantics

the document that they used when they repair the car.

VTCS

Like I said, I have the paper. Once I find it I can scan it.

Considering you claim it's your job, if you didn't know more than you should be fired.

But, according to you, you know more than the techs at University Mazda in Seattle. Perhaps you should be manager.
 
t3ase said:
resubscribing to watch.

keep in mind BlkZoom has much more credibility in this situation, so be prepared to have hard proof if youre going to call him out.

I have the copy of the repair that I can scan once I find it.
 
Mazda P5 driver said:
semantics

the document that they used when they repair the car.

VTCS

Like I said, I have the paper. Once I find it I can scan it.

Considering you claim it's your job, if you didn't know more than you should be fired.

But, according to you, you know more than the techs at University Mazda in Seattle. Perhaps you should be manager.

"the document that they used when they repair the car." The Repair order I assume you mean.
I'm not even sure what you said was an argument or not. If they stated "VTCS" they meant to state "VICS", it's that simple.
I would never be happy with being the manager, I love working on cars.
 
Sorry to break up this love fest...anyway, BlkZoomZoom, is there any eta on a "recall" / whatever it is that they're planning to do?
 
It will be a recall. No eta as of yet, it hasn't been released. All I know as of this point is we already have the parts.
 
Mazda P5 driver said:
semantics

the document that they used when they repair the car.

VTCS

Like I said, I have the paper. Once I find it I can scan it.

Considering you claim it's your job, if you didn't know more than you should be fired.

But, according to you, you know more than the techs at University Mazda in Seattle. Perhaps you should be manager.

ok man. Seems like you have THE paper.........
dude, you're one of few on these forums who seems like he DOES NOT have any idea that 3rd gen protege is suffering from ViCS defect. Dont jump the ******* gun, do a search and go back to that dealership of yours and beat the s*** out of them for giving you wrong information. Simple as that.

BlkZoomZoom, I cant wait for more news on this recall. Keep us updated if you hear anything else on ViCS problem
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
"the document that they used when they repair the car." The Repair order I assume you mean.
I'm not even sure what you said was an argument or not. If they stated "VTCS" they meant to state "VICS", it's that simple.
I would never be happy with being the manager, I love working on cars.

So...even if I scan it and it says VTCS they are still wrong?

Wow...your "tech" experience must be greater than the 25 years experience at University Mazda which happenes to be THE oldest dealership. 2nd built. the first closed down.

hahaha...you are a character and a joke.
 
Mazda P5 driver said:
So...even if I scan it and it says VTCS they are still wrong?

Wow...your "tech" experience must be greater than the 25 years experience at University Mazda which happenes to be THE oldest dealership. 2nd built. the first closed down.

hahaha...you are a character and a joke.

k, 1st of all, you dont know what you're talking about. That is a fact because so many people are telling you that it is ViCS and you're just fighting back like a kid who's living in denial.
2nd. Yes, your tech guys are retards if they mixing up VTCS and ViCS systems. 3rd, dont ******* jump the gun if you dont know what you're talking about.

Asumption is a mother of all **** ups. Go to a different stealership and get your story straight. There is no single record ANYWHERE that VTCS is causing screw loss malfunction.

Get your story straight, read some facts and stfu already.
Everyone makes mistakes....and if I would be you, I would already complain about poor knowledge of those tech's.

By the way, dealership next to my house is also another fuckup similar to yours. Only these guys even refuse to take a look at the problem even if you're under warranty. I had to call MAZDA USA to get those fuckers straight.

oh and yea almost forgot.

I would LOVE to see that paper of yours once you'll find it. That would be a great nonsense to look at, and maybe a perfect way to get someone fired.
 
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Mazda P5 driver said:
So...even if I scan it and it says VTCS they are still wrong?

Wow...your "tech" experience must be greater than the 25 years experience at University Mazda which happenes to be THE oldest dealership. 2nd built. the first closed down.

hahaha...you are a character and a joke.

Subbing for more info, and

Jesus, kid, stfu. Christ, are you a blithering idiot.
Your 'techs' are wrong and your paper is wrong. Why are you calling us out when obviously you don't understand one goddam thing you are talking about.
God, I hate antagonistic people.
 
subscribing hoping to hear an ETA about a recall... I have read so much on this I am so confused about whether I am at risk or not...
 
bratliff said:
subscribing hoping to hear an ETA about a recall... I have read so much on this I am so confused about whether I am at risk or not...

how many miles you got on the pro Bro?
Buddy of mine had ViCS screws failure at around 87k miles. Had it taken care of free of charge at the dealer.
 
bratliff, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most of the people who have had problems with this are not 2002 owners and have come out of the Hofu plant. I'm not saying it isn't going to happen to you, but don't lose any sleep over it.
 
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