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What is the point of comparing a modified car to a stock car, exactly? Or do you actually think it's fun to talk about whose car can take whose with enough overnight parts from Japan?
What is the point of comparing a modified car to a stock car, exactly? Or do you actually think it's fun to talk about whose car can take whose with enough overnight parts from Japan?
Do your research. A MKV GTI with a stage 2 (chip and tbe) will beat a Ms3.
hah. and to think, i figured this silly thread was finally dead.
guess not....
a freakin' chrysler 300 with 700 dollars worth of nitrous equipment will beat a ms3, or, a 20 year old crx si with 6 psi will beat a ms3. who cares, such is life. if you are tough, someone's tougher, if you are strong, someone is stronger, if you are smart....you get the idea.
pissing contests ftl.
Do your research. A MKV GTI with a stage 2 (chip and tbe) will beat a Ms3.
That's crap. Listen to the discussions on here some time. Pick a car you might compare the MS3 to and inevitably someone will fall back to some lame cop out instead of appreciating the merits of the other vehicle. "SRT-4? Sure it's fast but it's UGLY! GTI? Slow! VR6? AWD and all but too pricey. STI? It's not worth 10k more! Evo? Hells naw, drives too raw, and it's not a hatch!" While there is nothing wrong with those arguments, they come out at the expense of ever acknowledging another car having any merit. I talk this stuff with people all the time, and somehow we manage to discuss vehicles without sounding like fan boys or a Mazda marketing wing. It's annoying as hell to see on here.
I don't need pointers on how to compare vehicles, either. My point has nothing to do with that. When people on here make comparisons to similar vehicles, it's a circle jerk for the Mazdaspeed3. Remember any of the Caliber SRT-4 threads? "It's as fast as the MS3 -> Yea but it's ugly." Or "There is a big after market community -> Yea well it needs it!" Or "Price is pretty similar -> Yea well we get more for the same price, plus the interior is crap!" Never would anyone on here say "Yea, it's about as fast, with a strong after market, and a pretty similar price."
When people on here make comparisons to vehicles we have no business trying to compare to, it's another circle jerk for the Mazdaspeed3. STIs, RX-8s, S2000's, Evo's, SRT-8 Jeeps, etc etc etc. "Faster, sure, but we're cheaper! We win!" "Rear wheel drive, sure, but we can seat four!" "AWD, who cares? I can fit a big screen in my car!" "Hah, okay, so it walks away from my car, but I get better mileage."
The scope of the comparison shifts depending on if we are losing or not. If it's a comparison about speed and we're not winning, price and functionality are injected into the conversation so we still "win." If it's about driving fun and handling and we're not winning, straight line speed and price are injected into the conversation so we still "win." It's bull. I'm starting to wonder if I'm driving a car or Jesus, since it can apparently do no wrong.
I'm starting to wonder if I'm driving a car or Jesus, since it can apparently do no wrong.
i guess you have heard by now, automobile mag. (aug 2008) calls the MS3 "Giant Killer" MS3=Winner. R32=Not so much.
i guess you have heard by now, automobile mag. (aug 2008) calls the MS3 "Giant Killer" MS3=Winner. R32=Not so much.
"a car with aftermarket work and some ECU tuning is faster than our car."
Hey, a Ferrari is faster than our car, too. Z06 C6.
I mean, anyone else wanna get all obvious up in here?
it was only a matter of time....