Webrides: MS3 vs R32

What is the point of comparing a modified car to a stock car, exactly? Or do you actually think it's fun to talk about whose car can take whose with enough overnight parts from Japan?
 
What is the point of comparing a modified car to a stock car, exactly? Or do you actually think it's fun to talk about whose car can take whose with enough overnight parts from Japan?

what if they were overnighted from Canada? I wonder if they would still be Vin Diesel approved? :)
 
Do your research. A MKV GTI with a stage 2 (chip and tbe) will beat a Ms3.

hah. and to think, i figured this silly thread was finally dead.

guess not....

a freakin' chrysler 300 with 700 dollars worth of nitrous equipment will beat a ms3, or, a 20 year old crx si with 6 psi will beat a ms3. who cares, such is life. if you are tough, someone's tougher, if you are strong, someone is stronger, if you are smart....you get the idea.

pissing contests ftl.
 
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hah. and to think, i figured this silly thread was finally dead.

guess not....

a freakin' chrysler 300 with 700 dollars worth of nitrous equipment will beat a ms3, or, a 20 year old crx si with 6 psi will beat a ms3. who cares, such is life. if you are tough, someone's tougher, if you are strong, someone is stronger, if you are smart....you get the idea.

pissing contests ftl.

lol im with him
 
That's crap. Listen to the discussions on here some time. Pick a car you might compare the MS3 to and inevitably someone will fall back to some lame cop out instead of appreciating the merits of the other vehicle. "SRT-4? Sure it's fast but it's UGLY! GTI? Slow! VR6? AWD and all but too pricey. STI? It's not worth 10k more! Evo? Hells naw, drives too raw, and it's not a hatch!" While there is nothing wrong with those arguments, they come out at the expense of ever acknowledging another car having any merit. I talk this stuff with people all the time, and somehow we manage to discuss vehicles without sounding like fan boys or a Mazda marketing wing. It's annoying as hell to see on here.

I don't need pointers on how to compare vehicles, either. My point has nothing to do with that. When people on here make comparisons to similar vehicles, it's a circle jerk for the Mazdaspeed3. Remember any of the Caliber SRT-4 threads? "It's as fast as the MS3 -> Yea but it's ugly." Or "There is a big after market community -> Yea well it needs it!" Or "Price is pretty similar -> Yea well we get more for the same price, plus the interior is crap!" Never would anyone on here say "Yea, it's about as fast, with a strong after market, and a pretty similar price."

When people on here make comparisons to vehicles we have no business trying to compare to, it's another circle jerk for the Mazdaspeed3. STIs, RX-8s, S2000's, Evo's, SRT-8 Jeeps, etc etc etc. "Faster, sure, but we're cheaper! We win!" "Rear wheel drive, sure, but we can seat four!" "AWD, who cares? I can fit a big screen in my car!" "Hah, okay, so it walks away from my car, but I get better mileage."

The scope of the comparison shifts depending on if we are losing or not. If it's a comparison about speed and we're not winning, price and functionality are injected into the conversation so we still "win." If it's about driving fun and handling and we're not winning, straight line speed and price are injected into the conversation so we still "win." It's bull. I'm starting to wonder if I'm driving a car or Jesus, since it can apparently do no wrong.

Some people really like their cars. Get over it! - This is a Mazda forum after all. If you're so hell bent on getting total unbiased opinions / reviews on other cars join a general car forum. This is a Mazda specific forum and people chose the Mazda for a reason. You flaming other folks for their opinion isn’t going to change anything for you. Express your opinion and move on, don’t be so worried that there are other members that think highly of their ride.
 
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I'm starting to wonder if I'm driving a car or Jesus, since it can apparently do no wrong.

LOL!! That's a very Clarkson-ish quote!! Funniest thing I've read this day.

And speaking of Clarkson, this video had a lot of TG/Clarksons style: Some shots, the color and music they used. It seems a bit like a TG ripoff, but, copying the best in the buisiness isn't a bad thing.

The presenter is no Clarkson though, just look at his body language in the vid, he seems too nervous/stiff. Of course they could improve, and maybe get something going that could become their style.

As for his opinion, well, it's just that, his opinion and impression on this car. Some of them may seem basic for us, but for someone who knows nothing about the MS3, it could be usefull.
 
uhh..its a mazdaspeed...it was build for power and speed and great handling....
uhh..its a R32....build for class and style....

for the money, the ms3 wins hands down
 
i have a friend with an APR tuned GTI MkV manual he has:
Intake
Exhaust
Fuel Pump
suspension
Chipped with all programs
and an intercooler, i think he has spent about 4 or 5 thousand.
We "drove" next to each other all the way to 140 and I was unable to beat him but we were only a hair apart( alright about a little less than a nose). I am not sure if those upgrades amount to stage anything but the Mk V with some tuning is faster than our car even if by only a hair. His next move is a bigger turbo and he said he might go stage 3 big turbo ( effin scary!!) and because he has much more money at the moment to throw at his car he will be faster than me. So to end the argument a MkV can beat our car with the correct amount of tuning and parts.
 
"a car with aftermarket work and some ECU tuning is faster than our car."

Hey, a Ferrari is faster than our car, too. Z06 C6.

I mean, anyone else wanna get all obvious up in here?
 
base gti cost more than a base ms3 ... stock ms3 > stock gti

no matter how you see it performance wise ... if you throw equal money at both the cars, ms3 > gti

modded ms3 > modded gti end of story ...

its kinda stupid to say a modded gti will beat a stock ms3 when the gti still cost more at a base price .. (smash)

i drive a ms3 and my bro drives a gti, i get reasonable amount of time with both cars and both cars are great ... they both have their own pros and cons ... but performace wise ms3 ftw...
 
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Hell, just switch out the air box with an intake and the speed3 gets around 20whp right there. It'll take more than an APR chipped ($600) GTI to match the acceleration of a MS3 and that's only ($175) dollars spent. I’m not even convinced a chipped GTI is faster than a MS3 "stock" as the fastest I’ve seen one run the is 14.3@99 which I believe is the norm, oh and that was even with the optional DSG tranny! But yeah we can play the what if game all day / night..
 
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