Redline Water wetter is a must for our cars.

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As you guys all know how rich our cars run AF to the 9s and 10s above 3500rpms.

Anyways, I installed some zfr5-11 yesterday. They are one step hotter plugs. Because of the hotter combustion chamber i figure this way it would burn more fo the fuel off for a fuller combustion. I'm sure mazda but in a stock plug in the 6 range because of bad fuel and hot spots in the combustion camber in the 3rd cylinder because of the location. Hot spots can cause pre ignition causing detonation. This can happen because of the fuel quality or the temperature in the cylinder walls can too hot known has "hot spots".

I did a good amount of testing yesterday with these plugs and did get good gains in power and response. Although one thing that was worrying me was that the cooling fan was going on alot more then it was with the cooler plugs. Although i didn't hear any deontation, I was worried about hot spots being created in the cylinder camber in extensive high speed runs (autox, racing, drag).

Today i threw in a bottle of Redline Water wetter (7bux at autozone). Did another test. I ran the car hard and extensively with both A/C on and off. I let the car idle afterwards and was surprised and shocked that the cooling fans were not even going on only half as what it did before. This indicated to me that the cylinder walls were much cooler and the cooling system had to work half as hard. I am positive that the cylinder chambers were no more hotter then using the stock temp plugs.
I would definitly run the stock temp plugs at higer boost levels but at stock boost and its stock fuel ratio. I'm positive that and the water wetter and dumping of the fuel is sufficant enough to cool the cylinder walls down. This would maximize performance in the engine.

Anyways sorry for the rambling. Redline water wetter works as advertised. For 7bux its a great mod to keep your cooling system working as it should.
 
Interesting. Hotter plugs and Water Wetter may be a good and cheap drivability improvement mod for those of us at stock boost. Keep us updated on this!
 
I have a 1.3bar radiator cap on order also. I'll be checking the plugs every few hundred miles and see how the plugs are doing.
 
autox did you just add the water wetter to your reguar 50/50 coolant/water mix or are you now just using a water wetter/water mix?

i read in another thread that a water wetter/water mix was better than just adding it to a coolant/water mixture.

i dunno
 
What is the exact part # for the plugs and where did you get them. I tried looking on sparkplugs.com but the only thing I could come close to is PZFR5F. Which is a double platinum. Thanks
 
They are ZFR5F-11, stock ones are ZFR6F-11. They are copper versions of the ngk plugs. They perfrom better but doen't last long as the platium ones from the factory.
 
a little warning with the water wetter. my coolant resevoir(sp?) tank looks like there was oil in the coolant after using water wetter. Just an FYI the water wetter and factory coolant in the MSP does make this brown stuff in the coolant resevoir. Some kind of chemical reaction with some coolants and only happens in cooler areas such as the coolant resevoir versus the radiator.
 
hmm- kind of off topic here but water wetter didn't help my jeep from overheating in the slightest- ran the test yesterday, the 360's have had a problem with that for years...
 
Yeh i noticed that, i'll turn the clean coolent reserve red. Its not harmful for the radiator or the engine.
 
shinzen said:
hmm- kind of off topic here but water wetter didn't help my jeep from overheating in the slightest- ran the test yesterday, the 360's have had a problem with that for years...
Water wetter breaks surface tension and is able to cool the engine better, if your cooling system is broken it'll still over heat.
 
mazdaspdprotege said:
so is just distilled water/ water wetter fine for cali ??
yes, coolant is only needed for below freezing temps and to keep the metal in the cooling system from rusting and conditioning (which water wetter does).

On a side note, I just bought a bottle today because of this thread :) haven't put it in yet though.
 
sorry for being such a mofoking noob to radiators and stuff, but how should i add the water wetter ? do i drain my radiator and pour the whole bottle in, then add coolant ? i'm in socali, so freezing weather won't be a problem. i've had a bottle since april and still don't know what to do with it.
 
Aaron said:
a little warning with the water wetter. my coolant resevoir(sp?) tank looks like there was oil in the coolant after using water wetter. Just an FYI the water wetter and factory coolant in the MSP does make this brown stuff in the coolant resevoir. Some kind of chemical reaction with some coolants and only happens in cooler areas such as the coolant resevoir versus the radiator.
nope, it happened to me too here in S.Florida it looked like you said brown and oily, for a while i thought water was coming into contact withthe oil somehow
i plan on draining and flushing the system this weekend and run pure water with the redline mix and go from there, maybe not a full mix with water more like a 15/85 mix
 
I'm a honda tuner and usually the 3rd cylinder would run hotter and leaner then all others.

I checked the plugs today and decided to go back to stock plugs. The hotter plugs had signs of running way hot. I guess this wouldn't work well with the FS motor since its a Iron block and doesn't disspate heat well as an aluminum honda block.

I guess the only way to go for more power is a boost controller.
 
I also use water wetter and can't tell any difference, but I figure I can't go wrong either since it only cost $7.
Instead of wasting so much time, just buy a lower temperature thermostant and be done with it! or get a thermo switch so the fans will kick in sooner.
 
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so one bottle and the rest water wetter is enough ?? or it has to be 2 bottles since thers no coolant ?
 

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