Newbie (oldie) tweaks questions

[jb1knobe]

I'm a newbie looking for a primer on basic modifications I can do to my P5 I just purchased. I'ved owned mostly american for 20 years and picked up the protege over the focus svt mainly due to value and price. I was leaning towards the focus because my money-pit SHO acually handled well and was relatively quick for its size.

The Protege is a great car! But would like a few more hp. What are the basic mods that can be made? How many hp can I realisticly squeeze out of this engine before boost?

Any help is appreciated!

John

 

[scorch70]

How many hp can I realisticly squeeze out of this engine before boost?

That is what I am looking to find out myself.

As for mods, the standard i/h/e from a number of web sites:

www.corksport.com
www.ptuning.com.
www.axronline.com
etc...

You can see how much (or little) hp I have gotten from those three mods. The stock P5 should be about 100whp.


hth
scorch70

 

[jb1knobe]

16 Hp

So the basic mods are intake and exhaust and if I read correctly you got 16hp out of those two mods?

Okay, what about bolt on turbo?

http://flyinmiata.com/protege/index.php?action=departments&parentid=1630


Thanks!

 

[Subghetto]

The www.hiboost.com turbo will give you 210+whp by far the best bolt-on turbo kit on the market.

 

[scorch70]

So the basic mods are intake and exhaust and if I read correctly you got 16hp out of those two mods?

Okay, what about bolt on turbo?

http://flyinmiata.com/protege/index.php?action=departments&parentid=1630


Thanks!

That ~16 hp includes a header too, which removed the 1st catalytic converter (the one in the front of the engine). So yeah, most people around here give up on staying N/A pretty quick (but not me, Im stubborn .

Good luck no matter what mods you decide. One thing to avoid though, is nitrous. I dont have experience with it, but there have been quite a few problems with it in our engines. Check out that forum for more info.


scorch70

 

[pingdum]

This question has still not been answered fully as Wagner has just come out with cams and a new ECU. Who knows with those and h/i/e, a port and polish, some other little stuff?????

 

[EviLMaN]

IF YOU GET A TURBO UPGRADE YOUR AXLES!!!! lol talk to mp5jeff of were you could get them

 

[Matthew]

i would get a mental addiction turbo kit. it even comes with a fuel pump.

 

[Lil Freek]

luckily, the guy said without a turbo kit.


header
intake (injen, ractive, etc...)
exhaust
jspec/MS intake cams.
jspec/MS exhaust cams (if you can find them)

Those are pretty easy mods to toss on.. get probably 20+hp with all of them (don't know how much the i/e cams will give you)

 

[Subghetto]

jspec/MS intake cams.
jspec/MS exhaust cams (if you can find them)

These cams suck save up and get the wagner motorsport stage II or Stage III cams.

 

[Matthew]

jspec/MS intake cams.
jspec/MS exhaust cams

sorry just a pet peeve. but on our cars it is only a header and not headers, we only have two cams. so its intake CAM and exhaust CAM...which, as ghetto said, are just about useless and good for about 3-4whp my guess

 

[jb1knobe]

Catback Sound

Okay, app. 20 whp with intake header and exhaust. Thats a good start I guess. My goal is to pass a little stronger and handle the NoCal hills a little better with the Auto. Auto?!

What's the Catback sound like? Rumble is cool but a braaap ain't my thing. Do silencers kill hp?

Thanks for the dyno info scorch. I'm guessing you didn't check whp before the intake and exhaust mods? And if I got this right whp is about 80% bhp?

PS, the more I drive this car the more I like it and the greater value it seems to be, particularly used, but I don't see many used.

Today, I dream bolt on turbo. Today, the reallity is budget street mods.

JB

 

[scorch70]

Okay, app. 20 whp with intake header and exhaust. Thats a good start I guess. My goal is to pass a little stronger and handle the NoCal hills a little better with the Auto. Auto?!

What's the Catback sound like? Rumble is cool but a braaap ain't my thing. Do silencers kill hp?

Thanks for the dyno info scorch. I'm guessing you didn't check whp before the intake and exhaust mods? And if I got this right whp is about 80% bhp?

PS, the more I drive this car the more I like it and the greater value it seems to be, particularly used, but I don't see many used.

Today, I dream bolt on turbo. Today, the reallity is budget street mods.

JB

My car definitely feels stronger than stock. And quite a bit louder. It is a growl though, not a buzzy loud. Not yet anyway, we'll see what it sounds like once I remove my remaining cat.

Nope, I didnt dyno before the intake and exhaust. I couldnt find a dyno in my area until afterwards.

Well, stick around and let us all know what you end up doing. And, if you can afford it, do a baseline dyno before any mods, and one after each major mod.



scorch70

 

[jb1knobe]

CAI, CARB and P5

Learing more about this mod business I ferget I have CA smog to deal with next year. AEM manufactures only the short intake for the P5. Anyone know of a good CAI that CARB certified?
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