Need Help Guys!

i bought mine while i was a senior in high school. i still have yet to do anything to it due to the extremely high payment. if my parents bought it for me and they told me not to mod it there is no way i would even think about it.
 
You must be lucky that your parents spent 25K on a car for you while you were in high school and bought you a fast one at that. Some of us have to work 2 jobs to afford a ****** car while still going to school...
 
im a senior in highschool also, but i paid for my car myself. started saving up for a car since the first time i rode in my uncles vette (9 years old) and been workin since 13..lets just say its all i spend money on the rest i save for college. having no payments left on my car i started modding it and the first mod anyone should do with this car is shifterbushings and motor mount. bpv isnt necessary unless your stocker is leaking (mine was) or your running more boost. so its only if you want to be another one of those parking lot racer kids.

oh and anytime you want to buy something for your car, just give one of your buddys with a credit card the cash, and have them order it for you and it shipped to their house. simpleeeee.
 
It only takes like 10 minutes to install/remove it. even an inexperienced person can install it in a very short amount of time. and i really dont think the dealership will care or they might not even notice if you get the black one. i highly recomend the forge bpv no matter if your modded or not because the stock bpv is a plastic piece of crap and most likely is leaking, causing you to lose boost presure. your turbo with probably last a little bit longer as well. if your dad ever rides in the car with you just turn up the radio really loud and try not to gun it. he will never notice the sound.

have you not read these forums?? (stfu) do you know how many warranties get voided for stupid s*** like a bpv or an intake??

You are right about something though; it does only take 10 minutes to change out. the problem with that logic is this: pretend you are cruising down the highway and your car stalls. it gets towed to the dealer and you werent able to take the bpv off and put the stocker back on. now you find out that your turbo is blown and mazda is not paying for it because they voided your warranty for the aftermarket bpv. now your out the money to replace the turbo, money for the tow, and your dad is pissed because he said not to do mod your car. now, was it worth it to hear phhhh when you shift?? you need to look at the whole picture before you give advice like what you gave. perspective.
 
have you not read these forums?? (stfu) do you know how many warranties get voided for stupid s*** like a bpv or an intake??

You are right about something though; it does only take 10 minutes to change out. the problem with that logic is this: pretend you are cruising down the highway and your car stalls. it gets towed to the dealer and you werent able to take the bpv off and put the stocker back on. now you find out that your turbo is blown and mazda is not paying for it because they voided your warranty for the aftermarket bpv. now your out the money to replace the turbo, money for the tow, and your dad is pissed because he said not to do mod your car. now, was it worth it to hear phhhh when you shift?? you need to look at the whole picture before you give advice like what you gave. perspective.



LoL...Serious much?
 
have you not read these forums?? (stfu) do you know how many warranties get voided for stupid s*** like a bpv or an intake??

You are right about something though; it does only take 10 minutes to change out. the problem with that logic is this: pretend you are cruising down the highway and your car stalls. it gets towed to the dealer and you werent able to take the bpv off and put the stocker back on. now you find out that your turbo is blown and mazda is not paying for it because they voided your warranty for the aftermarket bpv. now your out the money to replace the turbo, money for the tow, and your dad is pissed because he said not to do mod your car. now, was it worth it to hear phhhh when you shift?? you need to look at the whole picture before you give advice like what you gave. perspective.

Ok first of all mr. smart guy, you dont have to get the car towed straight to the dealership. i would have the car towed to my house first, then swap out the valve and/or whatever other mods, then take it in the next day. yea it might cost you some extra money in towing but im sure it would be cheaper than replacing a blown motor/turbo. or if your someone that is that paranoid that something like that is gonna happen just keep your stock valve in the back of your car with the proper tools that you need.
and as for the phhh sound that the forge valve makes, it really isnt the best sounding valve out there honestly. if i was doing it just for sound i would get a turbosmart hybrid, hks, or some kinda bov that makes a cool sound. this valve is more for people that care more about getting good performance at a decent price. so how is that picture for you? maybe you should go read the bov/bpv facts thread before you try to give your perspective.
 
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why does every thread turn into a warranty argument?

Just slap some duct tape to you stock BPV so it wont leak lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHPHWrXeIPY

(iagree) Duct tape ftw snap ring pliers are way over-rated for the CP-e kit lol. I wish I could see what happened when he tried to drive that.

have you not read these forums?? (stfu) do you know how many warranties get voided for stupid s*** like a bpv or an intake??

You are right about something though; it does only take 10 minutes to change out. the problem with that logic is this: pretend you are cruising down the highway and your car stalls. it gets towed to the dealer and you werent able to take the bpv off and put the stocker back on. now you find out that your turbo is blown and mazda is not paying for it because they voided your warranty for the aftermarket bpv. now your out the money to replace the turbo, money for the tow, and your dad is pissed because he said not to do mod your car. now, was it worth it to hear phhhh when you shift?? you need to look at the whole picture before you give advice like what you gave. perspective.

(nobody) I dont think he asked for warrenty advice lol. Looks give he already has a few mod's from his sig ( not sure how his dad would let him have the intake but not bov). Anyway just keep AAA and swap out parts at your house if you really think it is likely your car will be "stalling on the highway" due to a intake/bov lmao. I also dont understand why you get on here if your keeping everything stock just to harrass people about their warrenty and make them paranoid?(gtfo)
 
(iagree) Duct tape ftw snap ring pliers are way over-rated for the CP-e kit lol. I wish I could see what happened when he tried to drive that.



(nobody) I dont think he asked for warrenty advice lol. Looks give he already has a few mod's from his sig ( not sure how his dad would let him have the intake but not bov). Anyway just keep AAA and swap out parts at your house if you really think it is likely your car will be "stalling on the highway" due to a intake/bov lmao. I also dont understand why you get on here if your keeping everything stock just to harrass people about their warrenty and make them paranoid?(gtfo)

yea some people are just pussies when it comes to modding their cars because they're afraid of their warranty getting voided so they gotta go and be all negative towards other people talking about modding their cars.
 
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I don't think this thread is about responsible adults deciding to mod with parts that would void their warranties. I'm 58 years old. I've been driving performance cars for a long time. My MS3 just hit only 8K miles. I'm clearly out of warranty with my mods and was within a couple thousand miles. I made that choice. I paid for the car. I'll be reaching into my own pocket if I have a problem.

I think the discussion of warranty issue here is whether a 16-17 year old who is driving a new car purchased by his dad, titled in his dad's name should to a possible warranty voiding mod without dad's permission, and also whether the Forge BOV is a good investment as a first or early mod if the stock piece is not leaking under boost.
 
I think the discussion of warranty issue here is whether a 16-17 year old who is driving a new car purchased by his dad, titled in his dad's name should to a possible warranty voiding mod without dad's permission, and also whether the Forge BOV is a good investment as a first or early mod if the stock piece is not leaking under boost.

thank you. atleast somebody reads
 
(iagree) Duct tape ftw snap ring pliers are way over-rated for the CP-e kit lol. I wish I could see what happened when he tried to drive that.



(nobody) I dont think he asked for warrenty advice lol. Looks give he already has a few mod's from his sig ( not sure how his dad would let him have the intake but not bov). Anyway just keep AAA and swap out parts at your house if you really think it is likely your car will be "stalling on the highway" due to a intake/bov lmao. I also dont understand why you get on here if your keeping everything stock just to harrass people about their warrenty and make them paranoid?(gtfo)


i am not giving him warranty advice persay. what i am saying is that the car is his dads and its not really up to him to be deciding what mods are acceptable. if you bought your kid a brand new 23k dollar car and he/she did something that voided the warranty wouldnt you be pissed?? im looking at it from the other perspective;his dads shoes. I agree that the bov isnt going to cause the car to stall or break etc...but do you think mazda hasnt tried to screw somebody over stating that the aftermarket bpv caused it?? they've done it with intakes, so why not an aftermarket bpv?
 
Reminds me of when I was 17 and my dad wouldn't let me put a chrome naked chick on the back of my '86 F-150.
 
Ok first of all mr. smart guy, you dont have to get the car towed straight to the dealership.



so do you automatically get this defensive every time somebody has a differing opinion that yours?

i would have the car towed to my house first, then swap out the valve and/or whatever other mods, then take it in the next day. yea it might cost you some extra money in towing but im sure it would be cheaper than replacing a blown motor/turbo. or if your someone that is that paranoid that something like that is gonna happen just keep your stock valve in the back of your car with the proper tools that you need.
and as for the phhh sound that the forge valve makes, it really isnt the best sounding valve out there honestly. if i was doing it just for sound i would get a turbosmart hybrid, hks, or some kinda bov that makes a cool sound.

all of this is nice if you own the car and not your dad who told you not to put a part on but you did it anyways. thats the perspective i was giving, smartguy
 
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ok so just to clear everything up...the car is under my dad's name...i DO work however and pay for mods and stuff like that...

THIS REALLY IS NOT A WARRANTY ISSUE...

All i wanted to know is if it worth it to spend 150 bucks and install a new bpv... i really just wanted the facts to explain to my father why i should be allowed to buy it myself or not...


Thanks to everyone who helped haha
 
Borrow a Dash hawk and show him Vacuum with the stock and how it losses boost pressure in higher gears and that with the Forge it will hold that pressure and not waste any power. that is really your only benefit that you can be honest about.

Good luck!
 
haha thanks thats really all i was looking for....i didnt mean to start a warranty debate or a debate on whether i deserved my car because of my age
 
Regardless of what you do, please, please, understand that an aftermarket BOV IS a warranty issue if you have an engine problem. Dealers look for ways to void warranties, and they'll do it on the slimmest of grounds. Fact. That dream dealer that any of us may think is mod friendly can change tunes in a heart beat when there's trouble.

I'm prepared to face that with my pocketbook on a warranty that's on a car that I own.

You may stop reading now. But if anyone is still interested:

Under the heading of "more information than necessary" but to put things in context, let me say that I started racing cars on the drag strip when I was 17 years old. My family owned (still does) and operates to this day an automotive engine rebuilding company, automotive machine shop and builds custom performance engines -- what some call "speed shop" work.

At 19 my dad put me in a new 1970 A body Mopar (lightest body they made) with 340 engine, four speed, and 3.91 posi. We ordered the car from the factory with "delete" on every option we could to keep it light. Hell, it didn't have air conditioning, did not have power steering or power anything, even did not have a radio. First thing we did was take off everything else we could that was not necessary to be stock legal at the strip and lighten it up more. Second thing we did was pull the engine, the first week we had the car! Warranty went out the window.

We did a showroom stock "blueprint" on the engine, putting everything at the exact optimum racing tolerance while staying within stock specs. made sure that every rod, every piston, weighed the same thing, balanced the crank and all reciprocating mass, decked the block at minimum height to get compression at the maximum spec, and milled the cylinder heads so that every cylinder had as close to equal volume as possible, (but could not port or polish and stay in class), put in a stock "cheater" cam that would read normal lift and duration but would come up on the power curve rather violently and still be within specs. That cam profile was only good for about 10,000 street miles before lobe wear would reduce performance.

The list goes on and on as to what you did with engine and chassis mods to race in showroom stock classes in those days and absolutely clock everybody else. Running mid 12's on 100 octane fuel within all stock specs, without headers and on DOT legal street tires. Leaving hard put the left front tire about 3-4 inches off of the ground.

But, and this is a BIG but -- we were doing this as a family project and it was with full knowledge and open cooperation of the owner of the car - my dad. My now grown daughter had a need for speed and learned to drive and still drives in modded turbo cars (relatively mild mods but enough to void warranty) -- Saabs are her preference and a proud dad helps her with the tech side.

Since a teen, I've always had modded, sometimes highly modded, but stealthy sleeper cars. This time around the MS3 got my attention and I love it. Once in your blood, it never leaves.
 
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