Msp Vs. ???

[HondaEat-R]

Not everyone drag races. Some people like to turn the steering wheel. In a race on a track you don't stop at the begining of the backstraight each lap. You are already rolling so the one that accerates faster will win if you are side by side coming out of the corner.Racing from a roll shows the acceleration of the two carsas if you were on the track. You can go from a 20mph roll like I do with my friend who has a WRX. You honestly can't beat a STI or R32 with your mods?? I hope you are kidding.

Very true, racing in the twisties is great, any sort of circuit racing is as well. I was obviously talking about drag type situations, either on a strip or where people roll, and almost always race in a straight line when from a roll. Why would I walk a STI ? Honestly, have you ever been in one ? Or truly raced one ? Show me you in your MSP walking a STI, please. And don't "hope that I'm kidding", because I'm not. Lets be realistic, and not just talk up our cars just because we have one.

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

Look, I respect your opinion but in repsonse to this - YOU OWN A DAMNED PROTEGE! That's no different than saying "IT'S A DAMNED HONDA CIVIC!". Both are Japanese compact sedans or hatches and are comparable at every level. Entry level Civic = entry level Protege and MSP = Civic Si (I'm talking about stock here). Honestly, who gives a flying **** how many modded Civics are out there? Just because they're common doesn't mean they're crap and just because something is rare doesn't mean it's great. Perhaps most import tuners just know the Protege isn't a great platform and opt for something with more support. C'mon man, I know you love your car and Mazda but blind faith is just stupid.

BS when you say Civic Si = MSP, how much does Honda Civic si costs ? how much were the MSP.. stock by stock the msp looks better and and perform better when it comes about how much money you have paid, because we all know Hondas are way more expensive than mazda, and any Si civic is more expensive than any msp. i really doubt any Civic SI runs for $ 19,000 fully loaded. i mean you think i really care if greddy,HKS sells more parts and have more market for honda than for mazda ? s*** i can tell you Magnum that the least s*** i have in my car is blind Faith. The Mazda Proteges are good, way to good for the amount of money you pay for it.

 

[2.0t03speed]

Btw way will i tried to call you yesterday had a question for you about the defi gauges

 

[haze20]

My friends fiance has one. They out weigh the MSP by about 500 or so pounds. They make 300hp and 300tq at the crank. When you add drive train loss it puts them around 240-270 at the wheels depending on who you talk to. With you mods I would figure you should be making at least 220 at the least. My car puts down right around 200WHP and 200Wtq with just a K&N and Vibrant exhaust at 10PSI. From a roll you should beat or at the very least be right on the ass of one with your mods. I could be wrong but thats my opinion.

 

[haze20]

Btw way will i tried to call you yesterday had a question for you about the defi gauges

Whats your #? I had a # I didn't know come up but didn't answer it. Nobody left a message so I figured they would call back or it wasn't important.

 

[HondaEat-R]

BS when you say Civic Si = MSP, how much does Honda Civic si costs ? how much were the MSP.. stock by stock the msp looks better and and perform better when it comes about how much money you have paid, because we all know Hondas are way more expensive than mazda, and any Si civic is more expensive than any msp. i really doubt any Civic SI runs for $ 19,000 fully loaded. i mean you think i really care if greddy,HKS sells more parts and have more market for honda than for mazda ? s*** i can tell you Magnum that the least s*** i have in my car is blind Faith. The Mazda Proteges are good, way to good for the amount of money you pay for it.

New Civic Si = Faster than MSP.

 

[kamon8404]

I drove a civic si a few weeks ago at the deal. It was definitely a solid piece. It was used and they wanted 19k.

I paid 13k for my msp. With all the mods, I would still be less than 19k and my msp would eat the si. Plus i get the joy of knowing that I have a bad ass turbo set up.

 

[HondaEat-R]

Stock for stock, Si would own. I don't know your mods. Gt28rs ? If so of course you'll beat the Si.

 

[2.0t03speed]

what year was the si?

 

[kamon8404]

what year was the si?

It was an 07.

All of my mods are bolt on. Which together are less than 2.5k.

 

[2.0t03speed]

fmic,exhaust,steedspeed mani,gt28rs,afc less then 2.5k lol?

 

[kamon8404]

fmic,exhaust,steedspeed mani,gt28rs,afc less then 2.5k lol?

Well i do it like you man. I got deals on everything

 

[2.0t03speed]

lol its nice isnt it

 

[kamon8404]

very. If I had paid MSRP for all items I would probably be in the 4k range.

 

[Ricktalife]

the 09 si's look pretty cool if you ask me. i still wouldn't buy one though lol. unless it was this special breed of si. the mugen....drool.

 

[haze20]

That would be close to a 30k drool. I could get a used Evo IX MR for that.

 

[Ricktalife]

i think it was about 37 actually. i could be wrong.

edit, nvm it is 30 lol

 

[kamon8404]

30k is definitely not worth that in my opinion! Goodness. I admit, it is very rare but you can get so much more bang for your buck!

 

[Knox Joe]

i'm curious as to what mods you have, besides the 18" wheels. who was driving your speed 6? i'm assuming you raced both your cars side by side.

the ms3 and ms6 are a whole different animal than our 170 hp proteges. stock, the ms3 is 263hp and a crazy 280 torque. the speed 3 i drove was stock and made me hate my msp, and i have a custom msp smic, corksport exhaust, atp wastegate, motor mounts and 9 lbs of boost. you must have quite the build.

I have every bolt on except for an intake mani.

I also have methanol, and run 14psi sometimes.


My MS6 is stock and has maybe 210 whp, weighing in at approx. 3800-4000lbs. My MSP has more whp, and is about 800 lbs lighter.

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

New Civic Si = Faster than MSP.

I agree, but how much is the new SI, and how much is the MSP, i bet if you put the difference in price towards the msp in mods, the MSP will **** the SI ass. no doubt.. there you get your answer and equation civic si= Faster than msp..