Msp Vs. ???

[nvmsp]

Yup just a little more hp like you said added to the msp. And it's just as fast if not faster than a ms3 or ms6. From a roll of course but thats the only way I race my car anyway.

And hollar1211, they may have made you hate your car. But honestly you don't have alot done to it. So you shouldnt be mad. Shoulda got a FMIC though and a couple more mods.

 

[nvmsp]

And I rode in a MS6 brand new, I liked it but I wasn't like OMG. It was quick but it's heavy... needs jenny craig.

 

[Ricktalife]

It was quick but it's heavy... needs jenny craig.

lolz

 

[special--k]

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What about a Saturn Red Line?

I read that they have 200+HP stock and pull about 200 lbs.

 

[43975]

Saturn what redline. They have a couple models. The SKY? That's a bad ass car thay a MSP can't touch. My boy just got a Solstice GXP, same car as the Sky Redline and I can't compare. It's 260 HP and Torque out of the box, rwd roadster.

 

[Ricktalife]

isn't there an ion model that's supercharged? i could be wrong but i remember seeing a really sporty one at an auction before. maybe it was custom.

 

[43975]

isn't there an ion model that's supercharged? i could be wrong but i remember seeing a really sporty one at an auction before. maybe it was custom.

I didn't know that car existed. Looks to be a formitable competitor on paper.

 

[Ricktalife]

yep i was right, here it is

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=102018

 

[kamon8404]

I have raced a ion redline before. Honestly it wasn't even fair. Though the driver in the ion did blow goats. I didn't even want to race him but he kept talking s*** for the longest time. Then I destroyed him.

 

[Ricktalife]

did you beat him stock or modded?

 

[kamon8404]

did you beat him stock or modded?

I just had a alumium hot pipe, catless mid-pipe, and an afc. I also have the TWM SS but that doesn't help all that much.

 

[Ricktalife]

so basically those ion's blow

 

[MAZDA_SPEED]

atleast saturn did their job right....

the Ion's transformation began under the hood where Saturn engineers swapped out the standard 2.2-liter Ecotec engine for a specially prepared 2.0-liter version that's built to withstand the unkind habits of aggressive drivers. Along with the steel crankshaft, oil-cooled pistons and heavy-duty radiator, the reworked Ecotec also features a Roots-type supercharger and an air-to-water intercooler for maximum efficiency.

not to much for the mazda team...all we got was a T-25..no internal work done..shame shame..(hand)

 

[2.0t03speed]

ummm we have a forged crank,oil cooled pistons(oil squirters directly under the pistons),and a more effective radiator. only thing that sucks is the stock smic and tune looks like you need to do a lil more reasearch on what this motor has before you go spouting off at the mouth =)

 

[kamon8404]

ummm we have a forged crank,oil cooled pistons(oil squirters directly under the pistons),and a more effective radiator. only thing that sucks is the stock smic and tune looks like you need to do a lil more reasearch on this motor has before you go spoting off at the mouth =)

+1 I was thinking the same exact thing. If this car had forged rods it would have been a power house. the stock pistons can take a beating.

 

[HondaEat-R]

no s***? i heard they haul ass. those bitches are awd and stick to the road like bubblegum.

MS3 is .5 faster in the quarter mile, and 1 full second faster 0-60. Though I still like the R32 more...

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

MS3 is .5 faster in the quarter mile, and 1 full second faster 0-60. Though I still like the R32 more...

Well, since you like that much the VW R32, can you tell us how much is it ? fully loaded ? what engine and power we are talking about here

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

I think and i'm sure lots of people think the same, that the Mazdaspeed Protege's were and still are the best Sport Compact car ever made for the price and equipment brought from Factory. I mean you can't have Awesome price, Awesome Standard equipment and awesome power. i mean in order to play you need to pay, no doubt. if you want to have a killer car, no matter what brand we are talking about you need to take care of the weak spots and add some money to make it better.. We all know the capabilities of any MSP with a descent amount of money on it. and if you add a little more we also know what this car can Do..

 

[2.0t03speed]

I think and i'm sure lots of people think the same, that the Mazdaspeed Protege's were and still are the best Sport Compact car ever made for the price and equipment brought from Factory. I mean you can't have Awesome price, Awesome Standard equipment and awesome power. i mean in order to play you need to pay, no doubt. if you want to have a killer car, no matter what brand we are talking about you need to take care of the weak spots and add some money to make it better.. We all know the capabilities of any MSP with a descent amount of money on it. and if you add a little more we also know what this car can Do..

i gotta disagree with you there lol alot of ppl think its s*** lol

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

i gotta disagree with you there lol alot of ppl think its s*** lol

Well, That's you Ryan and those who thinks is s***. you seem not to like your car enough... i really believe and love my ride.. R32 ain't all that s***, they are too expensive,, and just tell me for the price the MSP costs, what could you get better ?