I wouldn't depend on rumors from Car and Driver. They are rarely correct.
CX-70 delayed to next year
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Some comments from the Mazda President on the CX-70.
www.chugoku-np.co.jp
新型SUV2車種に自信 マツダ毛籠社長が年頭会見 | 中国新聞デジタル
マツダの毛籠（もろ）勝弘社長は4日、年頭の記者会見を広島市中区のホテルで開いた。今年発売する大型スポーツタイプ多目的車（SUV）2車種について「昨年末に試乗して、できを確かめた。改善ができている」と...
www.chugoku-np.co.jp
Hope thats the case and is not just publicity.Some comments from the Mazda President on the CX-70.
新型SUV2車種に自信 マツダ毛籠社長が年頭会見 | 中国新聞デジタル
マツダの毛籠（もろ）勝弘社長は4日、年頭の記者会見を広島市中区のホテルで開いた。今年発売する大型スポーツタイプ多目的車（SUV）2車種について「昨年末に試乗して、できを確かめた。改善ができている」と...
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When I translated it the caption under the presidents was this:
"The president of the hair basket explains the finish of two large SUVs of the large product group"
At least it seems they recognized the area that need improvement.
That was the first I have heard/seen any statement on the wheelbase. Assuming C/D got it during their discussion Donnelly, that bodes well. I been getting "its a 2 row CX-90" from my Mazda dealer since the CX-90 dropped and the CX-70 was delayed. I asked specifically on dimensions and it was their take that it would have basically identical dimension as a CX-90. I told them to go ahead and shoot yourselves in the head now and get it over with.
I like the CX-90 for what it is, but it is 8 years late to market. That upright look is so 2016 Lexis GX 460. I really hope the delay was nope, lets make a midsize version of the CX-30 design.
Two versions of the inline-6 were certified with Carb for the CX-70, so that would suggest both engines will be available.
They are not that stupid! They are foolish sometimes like making the CX-3 too small, making the CX-50, releasing the 3 row CX-90 first, not planning the 2.0 in the original ND Miata....But they are not THAT stupid. I've been holding my wife off a BMW X5 for a year waiting to see if the CX-70 is a worthwhile lower cost alternative.
Nope. X5 is 194" 2-row though there is a little jump seat 3rd row option. But yes, it is big for a midsize. The CX-90 is 202" minivan size! The BWM 3-row X7 is 203" The problem is the CX-50 is big for a compact though it doesn't really give you much over the smaller compact CX-5.
BMW X5 Jump seat option
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No way. Just because it has those seats does not make it comparable. dwswager is 100% right. Those rear seats in the X5 and in the GLE for that matter, are TINY. There is zero point of those.
That is also why those stupid comparisons between the X5, GLE and CX-90 were so stupid.
But the X5 is a 2-Row. You can option the jumpseat set if you choose, but they eat badly into the cargo box and maybe 5 year olds could sit in them. The jump seats aren't even listed on their website as an accessory. And with all the ones I've seen listed for sale, most people seem to find them not worth the money, effort or loss of cargo space.
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I'm pretty sure BMW is not offering that option for over 10 years for X5 out of stupidity, at the minimum it allows them to get to the 7-seater listings like this one - https://www.caranddriver.com/rankings/best-suvs/7-seater
I honestly didn't know anything about the size of the seats they offer, like probably most consumers
Hopefully they will end up on forums like this one
I honestly didn't know anything about the size of the seats they offer, like probably most consumers
Hopefully they will end up on forums like this one
At 3.3L, this motor could produce 400hp without much sweat when properly tuned (assuming it can rev higher without failure). Of course, Mazda is apparently redlining it pretty low. They report 340HP on premium at 5000-6000rpm. As a comparison, the torque tuned B58 in the BMW X5 is a 3.0L that produces 375HP at 7,000rpm. (And it is probably closer to 400HP because BMW always lowballs the numbers.)
It's about to get stupider b/w the X5, GLE, and CX-70!
CX-90 should be compared to the X7It's about to get stupider b/w the X5, GLE, and CX-70!
CX-90/2 should be compared to the X7 with the back seat down!
I'm going Saturday with the SupeWife to spec out an X5 and to me, even that is a little on the big side, but the X3 is too small for her. I drive a MX-5 as a daily and so small is relative to me.
The X5 is a more refined, nicer product over the X3!
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Yes, but if I could manage it, I'd love an X3 with the B58 for the commute into city.
But certainly both are killer options that IMO the CX90 doesn't really approach. Whether they are worth the extra $ is perhaps a diff answer.
