200whp. NA. What does it take?
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p5sundevil
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heh kool, i was just about to make a comment about that, gen1GT is right this thread is supposed to about the topic and the topic only, and where do u get that this thread died....last on topic posts were by twilight yesterday at 9:15pm and mine at like almost 11pm...10 hours isnt a thread dying.
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fact of the matter is i asked a simple questoin while answering a question. my computer has a 50/50 chance on wheather it will let me go to PM or not. Id rather not take the risk cause it close out IE; so when i say shut up i mean stop being a tight ass. Sorry big dog. I say the thread died because theres notthing more to be said. If there is let it thrive!
p5sundevil
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whats up with your computer? software or hardware issues? I can probably help if you can figure out whats causing the situation. Cause it should be doing that...sounds like a worm/bug or something.
edit: also didnt want it to seem like I was jumping on your case specifically, I am a little more flagrant when wasted =) Let the NA tech continue...
edit: also didnt want it to seem like I was jumping on your case specifically, I am a little more flagrant when wasted =) Let the NA tech continue...
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p5sundevil
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norton is optional, if you want to just run some checking programs once in a while and not always have a program running in the background....then I would run AdAware 6.0(there is a free version for download on download.com) and that will help with your spyware, popups, trackers and all gator related evices...
restart, run it again to make sure
then pm me sometime and Ill get you Spybot S&D, that will take care of worms specifcally but will help with the trojans and spyware.
And Ill tell you I dont visit porn sites anymore(truthfully, I DL videos only now =)) and I will still pick up 20-40 items that adaware catches every 2-4 weeks. The web is just full of s***.
edit: also if you do want norton systemworks or a mcafee app let me know, everything is free.
restart, run it again to make sure
then pm me sometime and Ill get you Spybot S&D, that will take care of worms specifcally but will help with the trojans and spyware.
And Ill tell you I dont visit porn sites anymore(truthfully, I DL videos only now =)) and I will still pick up 20-40 items that adaware catches every 2-4 weeks. The web is just full of s***.
edit: also if you do want norton systemworks or a mcafee app let me know, everything is free.
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boost is your friend. Boost can cost just as much, if not more than an n/a application. In the end it becomes the same motor work.
p5sundevil
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i agree up to the point of same motor work...a turbo kit basically bolts on like an NA person would start with I/H/E but thats about where that similarity ends, because from then an NA person has to work and study on cams, timing, P&P'ing stuff and so forth, and will require a different ecu setup if going aftermarket.
True a boosted person Can do all these things also but thats not what we are talking about, Im being more specific on a Turbo Kit vs an NA buildup. No doubt turbo guys know their s***, even about NA operations obviously but not quite as neurotically or in as much detail in those areas as a strictly all engine guy.
True a boosted person Can do all these things also but thats not what we are talking about, Im being more specific on a Turbo Kit vs an NA buildup. No doubt turbo guys know their s***, even about NA operations obviously but not quite as neurotically or in as much detail in those areas as a strictly all engine guy.
cdglowred5
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Gen1gt---If you want that kind of gearing look in the salvage yard. Look for a v6 mx3 for 4:11 gearing or Escape 2.0 liter and use the last one to make it 388 gearing. Another secret of mine in project escort gt that I left out. Also use the LSD from a GTX 323. I have that in my protege5 now(LSD)....
Look at the track ZX2 when it whipped up on the honda. It was a ford block ztec with the g series tranaxle of mazda with escape gearing....
Turbo=fun
N/A=FUN THAT KICKS ASS
Look at the track ZX2 when it whipped up on the honda. It was a ford block ztec with the g series tranaxle of mazda with escape gearing....
Turbo=fun
N/A=FUN THAT KICKS ASS
p5sundevil
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not really, they will then have to sit you down and go through what kind of intake, header, exhaust you want, what kinda of cams specs and cam gear settings you want, what kinda of compressions and timing you want, if you want to do any headwork, intake manifold work or maybe a completely new intake manifold.
the point is a turbo kit is just that, a kit that anyone can buy, bolt off the stock parts and bolts those in the kit in their place and be done.
An NA buildup is going to Require you to research each mod, and will never allow you to do it in a "kit" style unless you come across a company that does IHE kits but that just the first stage of an NA buildup. And Id like to see the shop you can go to and just say, hey give me 180whp NA, and they will either decline or charge you about 10k for all the labor and R&D that would have to be done to do a NA build right.
So while in the most literal sense of the word you could say make me fast all motor but your fooling youself to think it will come out in good quality, timeliness and finincial efficiency.
the point is a turbo kit is just that, a kit that anyone can buy, bolt off the stock parts and bolts those in the kit in their place and be done.
An NA buildup is going to Require you to research each mod, and will never allow you to do it in a "kit" style unless you come across a company that does IHE kits but that just the first stage of an NA buildup. And Id like to see the shop you can go to and just say, hey give me 180whp NA, and they will either decline or charge you about 10k for all the labor and R&D that would have to be done to do a NA build right.
So while in the most literal sense of the word you could say make me fast all motor but your fooling youself to think it will come out in good quality, timeliness and finincial efficiency.
twilightprotege
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come on ppl - keep this thread more on topic and stop the argueing. we're not children
