What cars can the MS3 run with?

[MS6mike]

lol just remember to breake the tranny in before you go out racing again.

 

[voiceKoil]

The wrx is an aging platform but I would take it over the MS3. AWD is too much for me to pass up. While the interior is nothing special, I personally like the minimalist feel.

The GTI is not comparable to the MS3 in quality. The GTI's interior and exterior is much higher quality then the MS3. All you have to do is look at both of them and the difference is very apparent. Im not saying the MS3 quality is bad but you cant compare it to a GTI.

ha ha, ever sat in both of them? theres only a couple little things, one touch windows on each side, lighted mirrors, they have fancy jacks, and a full size spare, WOW.... THEY STILL HAVENT CHANGED THEIR STUPID KNOB SYSTEM FOR SEATS! Thats soo annoying! It honestly cracks me when I hear people say that the quality is SOOO much better, honestly their nothing special. The leather interior on the Vw is sexy though, but I didnt opt for that on my speed nor would I with the gti, leathers overrated...



Cars the ms3 can hang with. WELL

I walked on a LS1 camaro from a 35 roll, took a 350z on the freeway, took an R32 on the freeway, took a wrx on the freeway, the list goes on, and that was just with a K&n filter, the cars are def quick...

 

[MS6mike]

i hate that knob system for seats what are they thinking?

 

[clos561]

lol just remember to breake the tranny in before you go out racing again.

yea i know, im gona take it easy a few hundred miles before i start stompin the gas again

 

[CHICO2003]

i hate that knob system for seats what are they thinking?

no doubt... european cars are generally pretty quirky though so I'm sure that's part of it. I'm willing to bet some engineer determined that the lever system was more prone to breaking (which actually makes sense). It's a shame they didn't put the same level of thought into their electrical system though.

 

[Scott]

I walked on a LS1 camaro from a 35 roll

You sure he was racing?

 

[Micah]

I've got a stock 350Z and a modded WRX, if any MS3 owners in NJ want to compare just hit me with a PM.

 

[bustanut]

the gti is more expensive and has less power. Also does it have lsd? Anyways this is the main reason i personally made the easy choice of the ms3.

Also just because u race a random person that u dont actually talk to doesnt mean that ur car is faster. For example just a couple of days ago i was racing a Ws6 and took him from 70-110 3 times in a row. Figuring that we raced a couple times and that i knew he was trying by the fact of the sound and that we would both take off at the same time i knew it was a race for a 100%. But using my head i can obviously realize that he was just having fun and enjoying pushing his car a little bit. He was racing, but safe racing. Theres no way my car can take a ws6 especially on the freeway.
The best race ive had so far on the freeway was a nice rsx type S. 3 different drops from about 55-100. Took all 3 times but the 3rd race it was close but i pulled on him the whole way

 

[zoom-zoomhatch]

I walked on a LS1 camaro from a 35 roll

I'm not sure about walked but I beat an ls1 z28, not sure what year and I'm pretty sure stock. I have the ets intercooler, cp-e intake, and awr rear mount and from a stop I only put like a half car on him but they can be beat, and I also got a 350Z on the highway.

 

[Karma_hunden]

I've got a stock 350Z and a modded WRX, if any MS3 owners in NJ want to compare just hit me with a PM.

hey, whats your 1/4 mile time with your current mods on the WRX?

 

[bustanut]

also i guess vw is gonna start making the r32 again but not to mention the price tag i was told it will only be available as an automatic

 

[knowledge007]

Well just for the record, i pulled in a vr6 and toyed with a civic late early 90's that wan't stock. After pulling away on him 2 times the Gti guy figured out he didn't have a chance and gave me a thumbs up after. The civic, well I don't have to tell you how that ended up. All I did was keep pullin on his ass in 3rd while smoke came out is aftermarket exhaust and then finally passed on the right and took off... Don't know why I did that, I usually don't mess with crapy ass civics but hey I was in the mood this morning to burn some gas.

 

[speedi3]

I was a stop light on a 2 lane hwy. A 745i pulls to the side of me and begins inching forward as if to beat me to my lane on a 2 lane hwy! My wife who HATES speeding said "let'em have it". I was ready then!

All that he had was the emgerency lane, with no fn emergency. So after dusted him I let him pass. He was in my bumper when I slow'd down but it was no race.

 

[Micah]

hey, whats your 1/4 mile time with your current mods on the WRX?

It's up there in my sig - did you miss it? That was last year on the slipping clutch. I revmatch and generally drive pretty smooth, the clutch only slipped at high rpms so I waited quite a while to replace it. I honestly could have waited another 5-10k from the looks of the clutch when it came out on Saturday. That 14.0 run was me trying to launch the car off the line, the clutch slipping and not launching at all, then me just driving it as fast as I could down the track. My 60' time was terrible.

Reaction Time - .705
60' - 2.501
330 - 6.315
1/8 - 9.339
MPH - 82.57
1000 - 11.897
1/4 - 14.089
MPH - 103.01

Car weighed 3380 lbs(per scale at track)

New clutch has a little over 400 miles on it right now. Grippy as hell. First 200 miles was clutch chatter on engagement like crazy - but now it's much less. Looking forward to seeing how I do at the track next time. I'm expecting mid 13's, though from my cars mods I should be running at least a low 13 if not a mid-to-high 12. I'm still working on the "driver mod". (lol2)

 

[M3_Zoom]

also i guess vw is gonna start making the r32 again but not to mention the price tag i was told it will only be available as an automatic

The R32 is SUPER NICE however, 0 - 60 = 6.4 for lots of $$$ and AWD. I would expect it to at least compete with the WRX or EVO dollar for dollar in bone stock form. If they were as fast as they sound, we'd all be in trouble.

 

[Micah]

The R32 is SUPER NICE however, 0 - 60 = 6.4 for lots of $$$ and AWD. I would expect it to at least compete with the WRX or EVO dollar for dollar in bone stock form. If they were as fast as they sound, we'd all be in trouble.

$7000 gives a complete kit -450bhp/411btq

I've talked with quite a few modded VW owners at Englishtown racetrack - no shortage of people running 12s with modded R32's.

 

[M3_Zoom]

$7000 gives a complete kit -450bhp/411btq

I've talked with quite a few modded VW owners at Englishtown racetrack - no shortage of people running 12s with modded R32's.

Are you kidding me. $7000 on top of what you pay at the dealer. That's why I originally said "dollar for dollar in stock showroom form." To purchase an R32 then dump $7000 for those numbers, well I guess that comes down to personal preference. Personally for me I can't see spending that on top of what it would cost to purchase the car. Dump $7000 into an EVO or STI and let me know what you have. See where I'm going with this...

I'm not trying to argue because the R32 is nothing short of awesome and I'm sure they can run in the 12's, but what I was stating was, bone stock in original form from the dealer paying that kind of money in my opinion it should run faster and put down larger numbers, thats all.

For me personally with what these super 4 cylinder cars are costing now-a-days if I told my wife I was dumping $7000 into say my MS3 or an R32 for that matter, she would shot me! Now if I said I was putting $7000 into my Z06 she would probably ask me on what. Everyone has there limits and that just happens to be mine. A supercharger or turbo on my vette sure sounds nice!

 

[Micah]

Stock the car is 250/236 - MSRP of $7k for a gain of 200hp/175tq with a preprogrammed ECU from an established company is not a bad deal. I've spent over 8k in mods and a little over 4k on labor - it's simply a matter of what you can justify. There's a guy over on the WRX forums with an APS TT Corvette - 700hp/640tq - MSRP is $10k on the kit!

Work the math on percentages and see which kit has higher gains per dollar if you feel like it. The R32 is a very nice car inside and out. Fit and finish are leagues above my WRX. The R32 has a very nice AWD system and a 6-speed DSG Auto - that alone justifies the price of the car.

 

[speed3shon]

very nice awd does not go along with haldex...

the quattro2 found in the longitudinal vw/audis is much better than haldex found in the transverse engines...

 

[M3_Zoom]

Stock the car is 250/236 - MSRP of $7k for a gain of 200hp/175tq with a preprogrammed ECU from an established company is not a bad deal. I've spent over 8k in mods and a little over 4k on labor - it's simply a matter of what you can justify. There's a guy over on the WRX forums with an APS TT Corvette - 700hp/640tq - MSRP is $10k on the kit!

Work the math on percentages and see which kit has higher gains per dollar if you feel like it. The R32 is a very nice car inside and out. Fit and finish are leagues above my WRX. The R32 has a very nice AWD system and a 6-speed DSG Auto - that alone justifies the price of the car.

"I'm not trying to argue because the R32 is nothing short of awesome" is exactly what I just said a few times. So where your coming on your second paragraph, I don't quite know.

In reference to your first paragraph you said it yourself "it's simply a matter of what you can justify." For me I would spend $10k for a kit on my vette before putting $10K into my MS3, that's all.

Now bringing this back to what I was originally saying which was DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR IN FACTORY BONE STOCK FORM and paying that amount for an R32, I would expect it to compete with the STI or EVO right out of the box, no more no less. Yes I know you can do lots with VW's, I use to race an 84 Gti and a 76 Scirroco which back then had everything that ABD, Techtonics Tuning and many others had to offer. So I'm very aware of what's out there for the VW's. (drinks)

*edit* understand I'm not trying to argue wether the R32 is worthy or not. I can't say it enough how awesome the car is.