So how long has the Cobb AP been out now? And still no dynos?

[borderline]

Very disappointing from the results. I have not even picked up my sheet, it was not worth
227 whp on stage 2 + MSCAI (version 1.01)
so disappointed that I did not notice my torque.
my mods: CAI + turboback + COBB

There's something that I dont understand. On the road, the difference is there.
I did ONLY one single run, I did not had time to do 2 or more (We were a bunch of folks)
But I doubt the accuracy of the dyno. He had to repair a valve on the dyno when I was on it, something went wrong.

First, temp was hot and humid.
Second: I noticed that my AFR past 5000 rpm, was in th 10.1-10.3 range which is PIGGY RICH. WTF?

I do not know if this is due to my spark plugs (I must check them soon)
Before making the dyno, I made a ride of about 136 mile on stage 2. Maybe I should have to do more.

I also bug on the fact that I peak only 15 PSI with the stage 2, With My OEM map, I was peaking at 21 PSI.

This was not my best shot!
I will retry in the next week and will see

 

[Munnugles]

Very disappointing from the results. I have not even picked up my sheet, it was not worth
227 whp on stage 2 + MSCAI (version 1.01)
so disappointed that I did not notice my torque.
my mods: CAI + turboback + COBB

There's something that I dont understand. On the road, the difference is there.
I did ONLY one single run, I did not had time to do 2 or more (We were a bunch of folks)
But I doubt the accuracy of the dyno. He had to repair a valve on the dyno when I was on it, something went wrong.

First, temp was hot and humid.
Second: I noticed that my AFR past 5000 rpm, was in th 10.1-10.3 range which is PIGGY RICH. WTF?

I do not know if this is due to my spark plugs (I must check them soon)
Before making the dyno, I made a ride of about 136 mile on stage 2. Maybe I should have to do more.

I also bug on the fact that I peak only 15 PSI with the stage 2, With My OEM map, I was peaking at 21 PSI.

This was not my best shot!
I will retry in the next week and will see

wow thats low... i made 250 with tmic, cai, and bov... either somethings wrong with the dyno, or your car...

things like these kinda not make me wanna go with cobb right now... and ive been debating with either cobb, fmic, or rims...

 

[Young Roids]

Borderline, What kind of dyno was this on? My afrs were way rich on my stock run. I had better numbers but this was on a dynojet wich is one of the highest reading dynos around.

Stock car, no mods.

 

[dkswim]

yeah im curious what brand of dyno. beacause if on mustang thats not that bad. and i cant think of the brand thats even lower reading then a mustang. then to top it all off it was dyno day whhere there was a ton of cars so the place just wants to get you on run you and get you off ther not just doing it for you there is 20-30 others there as well.

how long was the map loaded up? did it have enough time to learn your map?

 

[Nachtsturm]

dyno's are nearly pointless. Take it to the track and see what it traps at.

If it traps 105-106, then who cares. But if it traps 98-99. Then you blew 600 dollars for the chance of increasing your mpg's.

 

[Young Roids]

Dyno dynamics read pretty low as well.

 

[LENNY127]

I agree with nachstrum 100%. really simple. do a 1/4 mile run with the AP as the measuring device. Launch the car at idle to eliminate wheelspin (I know the 1/4 mile times will suck but we are after HP readings which the trap speed will tell.) do one with the stage 2 and one with the stock style v.101 then let us know what the traps speed are on both. with those mods trap speed should be 102-103...let us know if u do test it.

 

[aaronc7]

103-104 stock
104.5 Stage 2 + SF with 170 lb passenger

 

[meha11]

Very disappointing from the results. I have not even picked up my sheet, it was not worth
227 whp on stage 2 + MSCAI (version 1.01)
so disappointed that I did not notice my torque.
my mods: CAI + turboback + COBB

Something is very wrong there, with a bit of luck you just wasted $100 on the dyno and your power is actually higher than that.

with ems i personally would fully expect ~300whp and that is plenty for this car (with supporting bolt-ons)

Just to give you some hope, i dynod 274hp/292tq last year with cia, tbe and tmic, no other mods. Numbers dont mean a thing, if you can break traction in 2nd from a roll then you have plenty of power.

 

[borderline]

Yeah something was wrong with the dyno, I don't know what kind of dyno it is but it is similar to that:

I will try the COBB feature with the 1.01 and stock style and will see the difference
I think that I should have about 300WHP too(dunno)

 

[Nachtsturm]

103-104 stock
104.5 Stage 2 + SF with 170 lb passenger

That is nearly useless not given the same conditions. But just for paper racing sake, say every 100lbs is a mph and every mph is 10hp.

That would roughly equate to 22hp increase. Only real way to tell would be same day, same conditions run at the track and look at the mph.

Numbers dont mean a thing, if you can break traction in 2nd from a roll then you have plenty of power.

I can do that in my MS3 now with just an intake. And it need more power.

Also my 240whp SRT would smoke em from a roll in 2nd. Awsome stuff.

 

[aaronc7]

no s***. the only difference was time of day. same stretch of road etc. All done by the APs 1/4 mile feature thing. and I didnt launch at all, was trying to keep it as consistent as possible.

 

[ericrapp]

Something is very wrong there, with a bit of luck you just wasted $100 on the dyno and your power is actually higher than that.

with ems i personally would fully expect ~300whp and that is plenty for this car (with supporting bolt-ons)

Just to give you some hope, i dynod 274hp/292tq last year with cia, tbe and tmic, no other mods. Numbers dont mean a thing, if you can break traction in 2nd from a roll then you have plenty of power.

Hey, I can break traction with my Nittos, a little bit in second now! Traction in second is now what third was on stock tires. Those numbers are as Mazda god intended. nice work 11!!

 

[ztuner]

Here is a link to my dyno runs with the AP - Please read the notes section completely to better analyse the dyno.
http://ztuner.com/ms3dyno.htm

 

[Young Roids]

Here is a link to my dyno runs with the AP - Please read the notes section completely to better analyse the dyno.
http://ztuner.com/ms3dyno.htm

(cool) Finally! a before and after dyno with the AP. Thank you my good man.

Now as far as results go the maps do hold power a little bit longer but they do also create less hp than stock. From these results i would not buy an AP for $700.

P.S. they do also lean it out a bit so that would help mpg probly.

 

[dkswim]

what are your mods? how long was car able to run in the new maps.

 

[ericrapp]

Here is a link to my dyno runs with the AP - Please read the notes section completely to better analyse the dyno.
http://ztuner.com/ms3dyno.htm

Thanks for some good data!

 

[upnygimp]

(cool) Finally! a before and after dyno with the AP. Thank you my good man.

Now as far as results go the maps do hold power a little bit longer but they do also create less hp than stock. From these results i would not buy an AP for $700.

P.S. they do also lean it out a bit so that would help mpg probly.

Just because the peak HP number is about .5HP lower?

1) It makes more power over the entire rev range
2) It makes more torque over the entire rev range
3) It leans the map out

Just based on those 3 points alone I'd buy one.

 

[Young Roids]

If that's worth $700 for you then buy it.

 

[silversurfer513]

Getting on the dyno at P&L Motorsports in Chicago on Thursday. I will ask Jorge to post the sheets when we are done. Stage 1+ map with the Cobb SRI.