So how long has the Cobb AP been out now? And still no dynos?

[tru-boost]

COBB sent me an email asking me if i ever bought a AP. they wanted me to test out some new maps. i laughed and said no way did i buy one nor would i unless i saw one actually make an IMPROVEMET on a car. all i have seen as if yet are lower dyno numbers and slower ET's !! i told them i would try their maps if they sent me an AP for free !!

 

[WTF MATE]

Bump for anyone trying out the econo setting on the Cobb? I want to know how much better the gas mileage is.

 

[ztuner]

new dyno sheets are up

http://ztuner.com/ms3dyno.htm

 

[freeflyfreak]

new dyno sheets are up

http://ztuner.com/ms3dyno.htm

Excellent work Harry.

It seems like every tune gets a little bit better.
BUT and its a big but, most of the gain over a stock car is from hardware mods.
The AP gives a slightly higher average HP and torque but some areas of the curve lose in what I would call the daily driver area of the curve and the real gains are only at high rpms.

For my daily driver, Im thinking Id perfer the stock tune with the hardware mods, I rarely get over 5500rpm anyway.

For a racer though, the cobb may be better, more area under the curve, more power up high.

What is obvious so far is the real gains are hardware related, not much ooooomph from software...... yet.

 

[ericrapp]

good call fff and I agree with the yet part also

 

[Young Roids]

Excellent work Harry.

It seems like every tune gets a little bit better.
BUT and its a big but, most of the gain over a stock car is from hardware mods.
The AP gives a slightly higher average HP and torque but some areas of the curve lose in what I would call the daily driver area of the curve and the real gains are only at high rpms.

For my daily driver, Im thinking Id perfer the stock tune with the hardware mods, I rarely get over 5500rpm anyway.

For a racer though, the cobb may be better, more area under the curve, more power up high.

What is obvious so far is the real gains are hardware related, not much ooooomph from software...... yet.

Look at the cpe fullcontroll flash now by comparison and look at all the power they are making everywhere. My choice would be clear if I was in the market for an ecu solution. Not only does cpe make about 20 peak hp but the lower end is greatly improved in comparison to the cobb maps wich barley improve anything at all.