Good morning....getting ready to mow the lawn while waiting for 5 tons of rock to be delivered. Yay for Fridays off. (scratch)
It probably depends a lot more like what the tires sound like and how loud the car sounds and how quick it looks. I am willing to bet money that if you ran a Corolla at 80mph and your Mazdaspeed6, you'd get nailed for a higher visually estimated speed. Also, yeah, sure, the cop is sitting there with Amanda and a radar gun, but his eye is being calibrated for that portion of the road and after hearing some radar readings. If you put him in a new spot of road and gave no radar feedback, I don't think you'd be quite so close.Cops have never needed radar, why is this a surprise? It isn't that difficult to pick out speeders. Margin for error is probably 5mph though, depending on the situation.
It probably depends a lot more like what the tires sound like and how loud the car sounds and how quick it looks. I am willing to bet money that if you ran a Corolla at 80mph and your Mazdaspeed6, you'd get nailed for a higher visually estimated speed. Also, yeah, sure, the cop is sitting there with Amanda and a radar gun, but his eye is being calibrated for that portion of the road and after hearing some radar readings. If you put him in a new spot of road and gave no radar feedback, I don't think you'd be quite so close.
What happened to having rock solid evidence to prove guilt? Upholding this visual estimation is some police state bulls***. This and the cops not wanting to be taped in public (another recent issue) is covering up for those that are loose with their power.
hurray for cheap rentingYeah I have a funny feeling that now that I own a place, my days off will be spent working on it.
good thing i installed that cloaking device on my ms6.
Good thing I installed that cloaking device on my MS6.
I'm sure tire noise frequency and exhaust can cloud judgement but police are trained to use stationary objects and counting. Watch 50 cars go by that are driving close to the speed limit and the car that blows by at 15-20mph over becomes obvious. Knowing that it was exactly 17mph over can be contested but the officer is certain they caught a speeder. As for corolla vs MS6...if we were both speeding i'd have nothing to complain about. If you said i got pulled over for a higher visual speed when I was going 65 and the Corolla was going 80, that's a different story.It probably depends a lot more like what the tires sound like and how loud the car sounds and how quick it looks. I am willing to bet money that if you ran a Corolla at 80mph and your Mazdaspeed6, you'd get nailed for a higher visually estimated speed. Also, yeah, sure, the cop is sitting there with Amanda and a radar gun, but his eye is being calibrated for that portion of the road and after hearing some radar readings. If you put him in a new spot of road and gave no radar feedback, I don't think you'd be quite so close.
I'm on the fence with this one. I agree that police shouldn't be doing anything that they wouldn't normally do in front of a camera, but on the other hand, things can be taken out of context when only part of an incident is recorded. Everyone has seen Rodney King getting the s*** kicked out of him, but no one knows what he did to provoke it beforehand. Usually people don't start recording until there is something to record.What happened to having rock solid evidence to prove guilt? Upholding this visual estimation is some police state bulls***. This and the cops not wanting to be taped in public (another recent issue) is covering up for those that are loose with their power.
Yeah, you doing 65 but registering higher is really the problem. But also, remember, because our speed limits are too low on many roads with 65, and so the cops anyway pull over only those doing over 75 or 80. So, if you were doing, say, 72 and the cop thinks you were doing 80, you probably shouldn't have been pulled over (and probably wouldn't have been pulled over if he lasered you at 72).I'm sure tire noise frequency and exhaust can cloud judgement but police are trained to use stationary objects and counting. Watch 50 cars go by that are driving close to the speed limit and the car that blows by at 15-20mph over becomes obvious. Knowing that it was exactly 17mph over can be contested but the officer is certain they caught a speeder. As for corolla vs MS6...if we were both speeding i'd have nothing to complain about. If you said i got pulled over for a higher visual speed when I was going 65 and the Corolla was going 80, that's a different story.
Are you saying that there could've possibly been some kind of justification for kicking the s*** out of Rodney King? That's ****** up.I'm on the fence with this one. I agree that police shouldn't be doing anything that they wouldn't normally do in front of a camera, but on the other hand, things can be taken out of context when only part of an incident is recorded. Everyone has seen Rodney King getting the s*** kicked out of him, but no one knows what he did to provoke it beforehand. Usually people don't start recording until there is something to record.
No, I'm just saying we don't know the whole story.Are you saying that there could've possibly been some kind of justification for kicking the s*** out of Rodney King? That's ****** up.
Yeah I have a funny feeling that now that I own a place, my days off will be spent working on it.
Yeah, you doing 65 but registering higher is really the problem. But also, remember, because our speed limits are too low on many roads with 65, and so the cops anyway pull over only those doing over 75 or 80. So, if you were doing, say, 72 and the cop thinks you were doing 80, you probably shouldn't have been pulled over (and probably wouldn't have been pulled over if he lasered you at 72).
Remember how you would get called in for a license plate check driving around your VRM MS6?
Are you saying that there could've possibly been some kind of justification for kicking the s*** out of Rodney King? That's ****** up.
Have you seen the recent cases that stirred up the recording of the police? One case was of a motorcyclist who was pulled over for speeding: "Graber was not arrested immediately. Ten days after the encounter, he posted some of the material to YouTube, and it embarrassed Trooper J. D. Uhler. The trooper, who was in plainclothes and an unmarked car, jumped out waving a gun and screaming. Only later did Uhler identify himself as a police officer. When the YouTube video was discovered the police got a warrant against Graber, searched his parents' house (where he presumably lives), seized equipment, and charged him with a violation of wiretapping law."
Another snippet: "For the second time in less than a month, a police officer was convicted from evidence obtained from a videotape. The first officer to be convicted was New York City Police Officer Patrick Pogan, who would never have stood trial had it not been for a video posted on Youtube showing him body slamming a bicyclist before charging him with assault on an officer. The second officer to be convicted was Ottawa Hills (Ohio) Police Officer Thomas White, who shot a motorcyclist in the back after a traffic stop, permanently paralyzing the 24-year-old man.""
There's no reason to disallow videotaping of the police. Power tends to corrupt. This is why we have checks and balances in our government. This is why we have public government records. It's the tradeoff you make for power: you want power? then you must have oversight.