Front Right Suspension Crunching

[antlind]

Bushing Replacement

There is quite a bit more to it. I posted this on another section of the forum, thanks to benfolio for the info. http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2786571&postcount=30 I went to my Mazda dealer and they said Mazda Canada does not have this TSB yet but he is pushing them to recognize the US TSB as a number of owners have this problem. Print out this TSB and take it to your dealer.

I provided my dealer here in Calgary with this service bulletin and he advised that he's ordered these replacement bushings for me....Not sure when it'll get here (probably next spring after it warms up), however they're willing to perform this bushing replacement under warranty. I would like to think that other Canadian Mazda dealers will also follow suite.
Anthony

 

[ladygrey]

Just some info.

I talked to my service guy about this today. I told him I was noticing the noise again in the mornings, mostly from the rear (that wasn't fixed before) but also to some degree in the front which was already fixed in the spring.

He said that the new bulletin is a different fix. So, even if you've had this fixed already, you may want to have the newer one done now.

I'm having it done the first week of December.

 

[dommo_g]

Just some info.

I talked to my service guy about this today. I told him I was noticing the noise again in the mornings, mostly from the rear (that wasn't fixed before) but also to some degree in the front which was already fixed in the spring.

He said that the new bulletin is a different fix. So, even if you've had this fixed already, you may want to have the newer one done now.

I'm having it done the first week of December.

What dealer do you go to? I just noticed this problem, and called Sill Terhar. I'm waiting for a service writer to call me back.

 

[ladygrey]

What dealer do you go to? I just noticed this problem, and called Sill Terhar. I'm waiting for a service writer to call me back.

Burt on Arapahoe. Ed Clause is the service manager there - great guy, very helpful. I've been really happy with the way they've handled everything I've needed done (which unfortunately has been a number of things).

 

[fam]

Keep pushing guys. Mine is crunching again on bumps and dips, the greasing only last a couple months. Im used to it, its a great vehicle but someone goofed somewhere and it needs to be addressed and fixed. Grease isnt the real solution. At bare minimum they need a redesign on newer models so when we buy #2 it wont do this.

 

[WidgenEds Dad]

17" rims

17s are only wheel available in the states

And the UK

 

[the_saint]

Keep pushing guys. Mine is crunching again on bumps and dips, the greasing only last a couple months. Im used to it, its a great vehicle but someone goofed somewhere and it needs to be addressed and fixed. Grease isnt the real solution. At bare minimum they need a redesign on newer models so when we buy #2 it wont do this.

I've got a service order (or whatever it's called) at home and it shows that there is a serial number break. I'll check it when I get home and tell you what it says, or post a pic of it.


oops, I lied. It does not give a VIN break. It just says that they have ordered the left & right control arms and sway bar bushings.

 

[Loco Noah]

I think your issue is a different one as well. Im temped to take a video with sound and post it, its really bad. I too am saving up a list for the dealer:

1) On take off it sometimes hesitates (probably will need computer updated)
2)Crunching sound on bumps
3)One set of keys doesnt work half the time, doesnt light up, i think it has an internal short in it

I also have had the hesitation on take off happen afew times, thought it was me, but I guessI'm not the only one with this problem. I'll have to ask the dealer about that.

 

[fam]

The service dept manager couldnt get the hesitation to be replicated, but my 04 3S Hb did it and they adjusted the idle\updated computer and fixed it so I dunno if its the same thing.

Well, since im the supposed king of finding problems I might as well get started on the newest ones. Remember I gave the 5 to my wife, it now has 10k miles on it after 1.4 years.
1. Slowing down the abs in the rear really make for a bumpy slowdown at slow speeds (like going from 5 mph to 0 over a span of 100ft).

2. A light single knocking sound as soon as you (very lightly) accelerate when already at a certain speed. Feels like the light knock is coming from under the vehicle under the pedal area. I dont know if its a tranny problem or what. Back when I had my mustang when I gave it hell there was a rubber pc mounted to the floor above the rear end, so when the axle twisted it would hit the rubber instead of the body, it made a sound similar to it, but that was only when I was giving the stang hell. Dunno, probably not related.

 

[SuperWanda]

Hi - we have a 2006 Mazda5 and recently noticed the same crunching noise described here. Took it in and they said they would replace the sway bar bushings because they were dried up. I asked if this was normal for a 4 month old vehicle and they said it sometimes happens. They didn't mention anything about the fact that Mazda has actually redesigned them.

My question is, understanding that this should be covered under warranty - should I have to pay for the labor? If Mazda redesigned them I would say no but all they told me was that they had dried out.

 

[antlind]

Bushings

Hi,
You shouldn't have to pay for this.
I had mine replaced for the second time over the weekend.
They supposedly used a new bushing this time and it works like a charm.
Only problem is that I'm now hearing a similar squeak from the rear suspension.
Anthony

 

[SuperWanda]

Thanks for your reply.

So, it looks like the redesign is for vehicles made before a certain date or VIN.

What if I am outside of that?

Thanks again.

 

[antlind]

Squeak

Thanks for your reply.

So, it looks like the redesign is for vehicles made before a certain date or VIN.

What if I am outside of that?

Thanks again.

This is something you'll have to negotiate with your dealer.

 

[isda65]

Front Squeak and Rear Crunch GONE! A New Lease in Life.

I gave a copy of this TSB, http://www.mstore2000.com/PDF_Files/02-007-06-1675.pdf, along with a printout of the related discussion here as well as at Edmunds.com to my dealer's service manager. A week later they called me to say that the parts have arrived. I promptly brought my 5 in at 8:30am, left, came back at 5pm and all my problems GONE. Right away I felt a big difference in the ride especially at the front. So I guess the "front lower control arms" apart from the bushings were redesigned not solely to fix the squeaks but maybe to address the harsher ride (I'm just guessing here). It felt like the front had real "rubber" tires now as against before where I felt like I had wooden tires. The rear crunching noise that I had since I took delivery of the car is gone as well. Of course it's not a real test yet as it hasn't stopped raining since the fix was made. The true test would be on dry weather for the rear as it is the only time when it acts up. Overall, I am extremely happy and loving every minute of my drive. Thanks to all who have contributed. If not for this forum, I would still be suffering.

 

[jandree22]

^^^ yay! glad it worked out for you!!

 

[Islander-1]

Hi,
Many thanks to everyone who made posts and shared experience in settling the crunching problem issue. Im a new guy to this thread & forum but facing the same problem here in Ukraine. Like isda65 I have wrote a letter with attached Mazda North American Operations TSB to my local dealer and succeeded to get front and rear stabilizer bushings replaced under warranty terms, but crunching sound persisted. What shall I do next? I may assume that further step is to take care of the lower front arms? Unfortunately, TSBs are issued separately for each market segment and I was told that North American TSBs are not valid for Europe, still European TSBs are not open to public and Mazda5 owners have nothing to do but rely on dealers honesty! (First time when I came with crunch complaint I was told that this is NORMAL!).

IMHO only general recall may solve the problem.

As my tribute to the discussions Im uploading small audio file recorded when passing over a speed bump. Sounds familiar, eh ..? (hear ya)

 

[jandree22]

As my tribute to the discussions Im uploading small audio file recorded when passing over a speed bump. Sounds familiar, eh ..? (hear ya)

Haha, what an interesting first post! Yep, my Mazda5 doesnt have that but sounds familiar from my one test drive.

You gotta watch how you word your posts though, at first I thought you had a Mazda Tribute that was doing the same thing, haha jk

Welcome!

 

[Islander-1]

You gotta watch how you word your posts though, at first I thought you had a Mazda Tribute that was doing the same thing, haha jk

Welcome!

Thanks for welcoming.

Really, I dont mind if my posts may cause people LOL or smile just for the way I speak. I live in a different cultural environment and my tongue is not English, so its quite natural that my talk may sound funny for an expert ear, but I keep on practicing (with this forum as well).

Anyway, I feel happy for a chance to share with you my views on the problem and read comments and posts of other members. Your country enjoys freedom of speech for hundreds of years, while mine is less then decade. (drinks)

 

[jandree22]

Actually, your English is quite good. I wouldnt have known any better if you didnt put up your location in your profile. The word tribute just stuck out as thats another model of Mazda, in the US anyways.

Hopefully this board will provide you lots of detailed and helpful information, as well as some entertainment value on the side Im not familiar with the political situation in your country, but that is absolutely fantastic that you now have free speech! Sadly its something us Americans (and Canadians) generally take for granted!

 

[fam]

greasing lasts about a month or 2 depending on conditions from my experiece. Honestly my wife is soooo dependant on the 5 that unless they loaned us a 5 to use, she wont take it in unless it wont physically operate as a vehicle, hows that for loyalty.