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the_saint said:
Thanks Saint - I've got one of the first 5s (purchased July 2005) so I'm guessing the control arms will be part of the work. I'll confirm when I get the call to schedule the repair.
Front Right Suspension Crunching
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Thanks Saint - I've got one of the first 5s (purchased July 2005) so I'm guessing the control arms will be part of the work. I'll confirm when I get the call to schedule the repair.
SuperWanda
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I had my front sway bar bushings replaced but it still makes the same crunching noise - especially when the weather gets colder. When it warms up, I don't notice it as much.
D'oh! Me too. (ughdance)Mazda5wannabe said:
First time I noticed it. It's official, this problem carries over to the 07MY. Granted, today it's the coldest it's been since I took ownership and today's the only time I've heard it. 10*F
I'm gonna hold off getting it checked for now, if I'm lucky enough that it only happens when its this frigid, I can live with that. Furthermore, I doubt the TSB covers my 07 VIN. Looks like I have all of the problems for cold weather except the freezing rear door... popping noise(which is fixable), engine stumble, and now the groan. I hate to say it, but after visiting the auto show yesterday, Im wondering if Im beginning to regret getting the 5 over the Impreza/Legacy.
I guess Im stuck now unless I want to lose $$$thousands.jandree22 said:D'oh! Me too. (ughdance)
First time I noticed it. It's official, this problem carries over to the 07MY. Granted, today it's the coldest it's been since I took ownership and today's the only time I've heard it. 10*F
I'm gonna hold off getting it checked for now, if I'm lucky enough that it only happens when its this frigid, I can live with that. Furthermore, I doubt the TSB covers my 07 VIN. Looks like I have all of the problems for cold weather except the freezing rear door... popping noise(which is fixable), engine stumble, and now the groan. I hate to say it, but after visiting the auto show yesterday, Im wondering if Im beginning to regret getting the 5 over the Impreza/Legacy.
WOW! How fast things can change since 01-03-2007, 08:49 PM jandree22 "In the end, get what YOU want... you and your fam will be occupying it for the next 5-10 years, not us internet folk. All that being said, I highly recommend the 5 ."
I feel your pain tho, How many miles do you have on the 5 now?
Meh, the grass is always greener...jandree22 said:I hate to say it, but after visiting the auto show yesterday, I’m wondering if I’m beginning to regret getting the 5 over the Impreza/Legacy.
I'm sure the scooby's have their problems too.
Yah, I'm sure that's a big part of it, seeing over a hundred different models at the show that I could've picked instead. Combine that with hearing the dreaded crunch for the first time ever... now maybe you could see what got me all flustered! In reality, that comment was flat out too harsh.the_saint said:
Seriously, the problems I'm experiencing are extremely nit-pick in the big picture. Especially when comparing to the versatility, styling, and performance of the 5. I'm just an OCD mofo sometimes! I still love the car and trust me, not gonna jump ship anytime soon
Edit--> olddady, I got about 3700mi. on the ticker so far
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jandree22 said:Yah, I'm sure that's a big part of it, seeing over a hundred different models at the show that I could've picked instead. Combine that with hearing the dreaded crunch for the first time ever... now maybe you could see what got me all flustered! In reality, that comment was flat out too harsh.
Seriously, the problems I'm experiencing are extremely nit-pick in the big picture. Especially when comparing to the versatility, styling, and performance of the 5. I'm just an OCD mofo sometimes! I still love the car and trust me, not gonna jump ship anytime soon
oldlady, I got about 3700mi. on the ticker so far
Just remember all the problems you are having do not impair you from going from point A to point B, which is the purpose of a vehicle. I know you read the boards and don't see major problems (engine, transaxle or electrical) posted.
We all bought the best bang for the buck car out there and want it to be flawless, but no car is. Please go to Scoobie Doo boards and see they have problems also.
Don't get down, you have wheels that will last you and your needs for a decade and will be sharp looking even then.
btw: Oldlady is my wife.
jandree22 said:
If it makes you feel any better, my brother has an '02 WRX. I rode it in recently and it's a complete cacophany of squeaks after four years and 50K. It's still a hoot to drive, though.
I wonder if the suspension is a Mazda thing. My Protege's been crunching for years when it gets under 40 degrees. It quit bothering me a long time ago...and I'm the guy who once stopped a car on a long distance trip to find a rattle, to the extreme amusement (annoyance at the time) of my then-fiancee.
When I bought the Protege over a Civic I felt that Mazda got the important bits right--powertrain, handling, room--and what you get by spending the extra $$$ for a Civic was a little extra refinement. I still feel that way, but I've been very happy with the Protege. Reading about exploding Honda transmissions and sludge-o-matic Toyota engines reminds us that no car is perfect. Mazdas are incredibly entertaining vehicles, with some flaws, but hard to beat at the price.
I think we're all pretty nitpicky on this board, which is okay, because that means we'll make our cars last a long time. Oh, and that dashboard tapping noise? Our 5 does it, but my wife--who drives the 5 daily--doesn't hear it.
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doctorz said:
Our wives must be related. That noise drives me crazy - and she can't hear a thing... she looks at me like I'm destined for the asylum.... maybe I am(glare)
Amen to that. My brother's 01 Civic was a victim of the tranny issue. $1k out of pocket for him and he's still in college. Thankfully for him he actually had a healthy savings account.doctorz said:
For the record, I completely concede on my recent negative comments about the 5 and desire to get another car... that was pure hogwash! I'm still in love with my 5 and can't wait until I can put it to its full use in May with the lil tyke on the way. Zoom-Zoom for many miles ahead (burnout)
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NissMazLover
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As far as my situation goes: I had previously taken the car back to get it fixed because of the crunching/squeaking noise I had experienced and talked about here in this forum before. I had reported that everything was fine and dandy when I got it. BUT, now that it has, finally, got cold here in NYC, the annoying, grating, disconcerting noise is back and worse than ever, both front and rear. Sooooo, I took it again to get it fixed and they told me they changed the bushings again. When I got it, it felt and sounded great, BUT, once it got cold again - in the 20's F - the crunch came back.
Of course, everytime I take it to the dealer, the weather warms up and the damned car doesn't make any noise. So, they are unable to hear it again and I have to wait until it is freezing cold again to be able to take it to them and let them hear that it is still happening. So, I don't believe that them changing the bushing has done anything to permanently alleviate the problem. It must be a design issue with the Mazda parts - unless, of course, the dealer is lying to me and has never changed them, but only lubed them up. I am thinking of actually taking the car to another Mazda service center and seeing what they can do about it, but then I feel like I am "cheating" on my regular Mazda service center since they have always been nice to me.
In any case, my noise is back and I would like to know if anyone else out there has their squeaking/crunching noise back after having it "fixed". Thanks!
Also, regarding the hateful dashboard rattling/tapping, the service dealer explained that my dashboard is warped. I always noticed that on the top of my dashboard, near the windshield, there was a wave on the top portion of the shelf. Well, they looked at it and it seems as though, while they were poking and prodding, they made it a bit worse (the wave is larger). Well, they said the rattle and tapping was coming from there and they have ordered a WHOLE NEW DASHBOARD for me and are installing it this week. This sounds good, but the thing is that I am nervous that they won't do a proper job. I mean, it's a WHOLE DASHBOARD!!! Will they get all the cables connected right? Will all the light on the gauges and various controls work properly? Will they make the dash fit properly and perfectly and alligned perfectly? I'm very anal, and I worry about this. So, I'd like any advice I could receive from you guys. Should I let them do it? Or, should I live with this rattle for the rest of the car's life?
Of course, everytime I take it to the dealer, the weather warms up and the damned car doesn't make any noise. So, they are unable to hear it again and I have to wait until it is freezing cold again to be able to take it to them and let them hear that it is still happening. So, I don't believe that them changing the bushing has done anything to permanently alleviate the problem. It must be a design issue with the Mazda parts - unless, of course, the dealer is lying to me and has never changed them, but only lubed them up. I am thinking of actually taking the car to another Mazda service center and seeing what they can do about it, but then I feel like I am "cheating" on my regular Mazda service center since they have always been nice to me.
In any case, my noise is back and I would like to know if anyone else out there has their squeaking/crunching noise back after having it "fixed". Thanks!
Also, regarding the hateful dashboard rattling/tapping, the service dealer explained that my dashboard is warped. I always noticed that on the top of my dashboard, near the windshield, there was a wave on the top portion of the shelf. Well, they looked at it and it seems as though, while they were poking and prodding, they made it a bit worse (the wave is larger). Well, they said the rattle and tapping was coming from there and they have ordered a WHOLE NEW DASHBOARD for me and are installing it this week. This sounds good, but the thing is that I am nervous that they won't do a proper job. I mean, it's a WHOLE DASHBOARD!!! Will they get all the cables connected right? Will all the light on the gauges and various controls work properly? Will they make the dash fit properly and perfectly and alligned perfectly? I'm very anal, and I worry about this. So, I'd like any advice I could receive from you guys. Should I let them do it? Or, should I live with this rattle for the rest of the car's life?
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Pray they do it right, or maybe you can sit in the customer area where you can see them replace your dash. Hope everything works out for you.
P.S. see if you can change out your dash lights out the same time they replace you dash with different color lights.(i don't like the green ford dash lights). good luck
P.S. see if you can change out your dash lights out the same time they replace you dash with different color lights.(i don't like the green ford dash lights). good luck
wow, i'm quite surprised to see that MazdaUSA authorized them to replace the entire dash under warranty! holy crap. They should be able to replace it okay though, I wouldn't worry about it.
However, several people have found an alternative thing to check to fix the problem. There are two loose bolts from the factory below the wipers in the engine bay. See here... http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=99550 Maybe you can print this out and see what your service dept. thinks?
However, several people have found an alternative thing to check to fix the problem. There are two loose bolts from the factory below the wipers in the engine bay. See here... http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=99550 Maybe you can print this out and see what your service dept. thinks?
Got this checked today and I guess they were able to hear it because they said they’re going to order the parts. Also, I mentioned to my dad (a GM service manager) about this issue and he knew exact what I was talking about. Turns out I guess the same thing happens to various Chevys too… he said exactly what was posted here, that they just lube up the bushings. A google search quickly revealed that this is an ‘issue’ with various other makes/models too. While it sucks because I never had to deal with this before, at least now I know it’s not just a Mazda quirk. I never realized that bushings are this notorious for causing the groaning problem in cars.
With is being -10 or so at night (and most of the day) lately, the 5, even after having new arms and bushings, is back to making noises. And they are FAR WORSE than they ever were. I'm sure some of it is due to the cold (it's never seen such low temps), but I thought the new arms were not supposed to make noise? I see some of you are in the same boat as me, and there's another customer here at work with the same problem. TSB didn't fix his either.
We're going to get to the bottom of this I'm sure.
We're going to get to the bottom of this I'm sure.
-7 here this morning and the 5 went in for both front and rear sound roughly equivalent to a bag of Doritos being crushed. The funny thing is it is intermittent. I go in, give the service rep a copy of the TSB and he says "The TSB is for squeaking, you said it was a crunching sound." I wanted to scream. This is the same dealership that Fam goes to and they know of the problem. I'm just hoping to document this issue further in the hopes that Mazda may be motivated to try and develop a sollution. I mena I am more than willing to accept that it takes time to develop a sollution, but while there may be Chevy's etc... that have this problem, there are also hundreds of cars that don't , therefore there must be something about them that causes them not to have this issue.
rodslinger
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I hope Mazda finds a fix soon as I'm sure the dealer is getting tired of me keeping their loaner....
Mine has the crunch sound AND a knocking sound going over bumps. They fixed the crunch Wednesday and the popping was still there when I picked it up. I didn't even get out of the parking lot and was hearing the pop sound that they said they didn't notice.
Well they did notice when we went for a drive together. They took the car back in and lubricated the sway bar bushings. The pop went away that night but was back the next morning. So Thursday it went back in the shop again and they've had it ever since...
Mine has the crunch sound AND a knocking sound going over bumps. They fixed the crunch Wednesday and the popping was still there when I picked it up. I didn't even get out of the parking lot and was hearing the pop sound that they said they didn't notice.
Well they did notice when we went for a drive together. They took the car back in and lubricated the sway bar bushings. The pop went away that night but was back the next morning. So Thursday it went back in the shop again and they've had it ever since...
SuperWanda
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rodslinger - what did they do to fix your crunching sound?
On ours they replaced the front sway bar bushings but that didn't help so I am going back today so they can hear the crunching sound again. I'm getting a little tired of making these trips for the same problem - especially since they always want to hear it - well, it's making the same noise it was making the last time you heard it!
Like others have said - it is way more pronounced when the temp. is cold. Here it has been in the -30's with windchills reaching up to -48 at night so it has been especially bad. Sounds like the car is going to fall apart everytime I go over the slightest bump.
On ours they replaced the front sway bar bushings but that didn't help so I am going back today so they can hear the crunching sound again. I'm getting a little tired of making these trips for the same problem - especially since they always want to hear it - well, it's making the same noise it was making the last time you heard it!
Like others have said - it is way more pronounced when the temp. is cold. Here it has been in the -30's with windchills reaching up to -48 at night so it has been especially bad. Sounds like the car is going to fall apart everytime I go over the slightest bump.
We have a fix!!!
Apparantly when they are replacing the control arms, the car needs to be ON THE GROUND when the bolts are torqued.
The MAIN NOISE that's coming from the sway bar bushings is an install issue as well. If they have been replaced, and are still making noise (BTW, the TSB is for a squeaking or UNUSUAL noise, which includes crunching), it is most likely because when they were installed, the tech didn't grease the bushings properly, plus they might have rotated as the car was put back on the ground. These should be installed with the car on the ground as well, probably.
The 5 that was in the shop yesterday with new arms and bushings just had the bushings greased with silicone paste and VOILA! No more horrible crunching noises!
Mine's coming in as soon as the wife'll let me borrow it for some greaseing.
Apparantly when they are replacing the control arms, the car needs to be ON THE GROUND when the bolts are torqued.
The MAIN NOISE that's coming from the sway bar bushings is an install issue as well. If they have been replaced, and are still making noise (BTW, the TSB is for a squeaking or UNUSUAL noise, which includes crunching), it is most likely because when they were installed, the tech didn't grease the bushings properly, plus they might have rotated as the car was put back on the ground. These should be installed with the car on the ground as well, probably.
The 5 that was in the shop yesterday with new arms and bushings just had the bushings greased with silicone paste and VOILA! No more horrible crunching noises!
Mine's coming in as soon as the wife'll let me borrow it for some greaseing.
