Blown engine & turbo

MP3skaterNC said:
The reason he's writing is because they car should of never needed a new engine in the first place, and like most msp's its probably not the first problem he's had with it. Id be ******* pissed if I paid 20k for a car, for it to blow up on me in less than 20k miles. The msp is a problem filled car, and mazda doesn't really seem to give a s***.

s*** happens dude...the engine could have been in a regular protege, as well...

they fixed it, so that tells me they do give a s***....
 
Yes I am an idiot. Let jeckel do whatever he wants, It isn't your car, so please dont tell him what to do. How do you know there weren't problems at the dealer before? And 25 days to do a motor swap even waiting for parts is pretty crazy to me.
 
pdhaudio said:
there are better ways to comment than make a statement like you did however. I don't think just americans are sue happy. although we do have an unproportional amount of them :D

I respect you for your grace. I was just kidding, however, being Canadian...You can understand how dumb your T.V. ads seem to most of us.

Jim The Hammer Shapiro!!!! If you were injured by... Lead Paint, Drunken Driver's Bla Bla Bla...Even if it was your fault...Bla bla...Even if it was ten or more years ago...Sue Sue Sue...We won't charge you a dime till that bastard is doin' time ( and giving you money)

Ha, Ha, Har!!(screwy)
 
Dexter said:

they fixed it, so that tells me they do give a s***....

They really don't care though. If they did, they'd offer in house aftermarket support for your car. Or they would make your flash to where it acutally changed the fuel mapping instead of just advancing timing.
 
MP3skaterNC said:
Yes I am an idiot. Let jeckel do whatever he wants, It isn't your car, so please dont tell him what to do. How do you know there weren't problems at the dealer before? And 25 days to do a motor swap even waiting for parts is pretty crazy to me.

Kewl man, But he brougnt it here. I was very concerned and sympathetic...right up to the point where...he said he was going to send letters around to people who fixed all the problems as quickly as they could have been fixed...it seems...No?

(p5white)
 
MP3skaterNC said:
They really don't care though. If they did, they'd offer in house aftermarket support for your car. Or they would make your flash to where it acutally changed the fuel mapping instead of just advancing timing.

It's a souped up grocery getter not an Indy Car.

Most people here seem to be really happy with Mazda. It makes sense that some people will have problems. Most don't. It is unfourtunate that all thoes who had problems did. The Mazda guys in Pembroke have been bang on. They all knew that I was building a custon turbo for my car. They gave me the Tech manual for my car, wiring, fuel pressures...Everything.

For every bad thing that happens there are 20 good ones. The good ones rarely get passed around. Be more positive man, the chicks love it.

Later

(p5white)
 
MP3skaterNC said:
They really don't care though. If they did, they'd offer in house aftermarket support for your car. Or they would make your flash to where it acutally changed the fuel mapping instead of just advancing timing.

yeah i guess. maybe its just that i havent had any major problems with mazda so far... (yeah, the sub blew, woo woo big deal)

and yes the flash is a poop.
 
MP3skaterNC said:
The reason he's writing is because they car should of never needed a new engine in the first place, and like most msp's its probably not the first problem he's had with it. Id be ******* pissed if I paid 20k for a car, for it to blow up on me in less than 20k miles. The msp is a problem filled car, and mazda doesn't really seem to give a s***.

Oh I beg to differ. Think about it this way, it's a skunkworks car on a limited production run. I challenge you to find another skunkworks car such as the MSP that doesn't have just as many, if not more problems. Also consider that since there are perhaps a total of 5000 of '03 and '03.5's, and that any problems that do occur are magnified because of the small number that were produced. Before you turn into a "Mazda sucks and they don't give a s***" type, take these factors into consideration. And remember, there is no car that is perfect. I've owned several Hondas all with just as many problems as my Mazda. The only problem I've had personally was the alarm, and it's not even manufactured by Mazda anyways. So get off your high horse.
 
guys guys guys. RELAX for christ sakes.

i've had a couple issues with the dealership before but nothing to major. i've been seriously unhappy with the car for some time and this is kind of the straw that's on its way to breaking this camel's back. i just hope this doesn't mean no more humps or something like that
 
shaolin said:
Oh I beg to differ. Think about it this way, it's a skunkworks car on a limited production run. I challenge you to find another skunkworks car such as the MSP that doesn't have just as many, if not more problems. Also consider that since there are perhaps a total of 5000 of '03 and '03.5's, and that any problems that do occur are magnified because of the small number that were produced. Before you turn into a "Mazda sucks and they don't give a s***" type, take these factors into consideration. And remember, there is no car that is perfect. I've owned several Hondas all with just as many problems as my Mazda. The only problem I've had personally was the alarm, and it's not even manufactured by Mazda anyways. So get off your high horse.

Eh.. Im on no high horse buddy. Lets look at another limited production mazda, the mp3. It only has one major problem, the clunk, and its not even that bad if you keep the radio on. The msp has had numerous problems because mazda rushed the car out, its a halfassed skunkworks car. It took too long to get here, and when it finally did, they didn't even fix the clunking from the mp3, and then it hessitated. Mazda "fixed" that problem with a new flash! that didn't change the problem fuel maps, just advanced the timing, hmmm.. advancing the timing on a forced induction car, smart! Now people are popping up saying they have coolant leaks, and failing turbos, and even a few blown motors. Thats a s*** load of problems for even a "skunkworks performance car!"

No car is going to be perfect, but the msp was rushed into production anyway you look at it, and rushing always leads to what? yea.. problems.
 
MP3skaterNC said:
Eh.. Im on no high horse buddy. Lets look at another limited production mazda, the mp3. It only has one major problem, the clunk, and its not even that bad if you keep the radio on. The msp has had numerous problems because mazda rushed the car out, its a halfassed skunkworks car. It took too long to get here, and when it finally did, they didn't even fix the clunking from the mp3, and then it hessitated. Mazda "fixed" that problem with a new flash! that didn't change the problem fuel maps, just advanced the timing, hmmm.. advancing the timing on a forced induction car, smart! Now people are popping up saying they have coolant leaks, and failing turbos, and even a few blown motors. Thats a s*** load of problems for even a "skunkworks performance car!"

No car is going to be perfect, but the msp was rushed into production anyway you look at it, and rushing always leads to what? yea.. problems.

Sell it an get a Honda.
 
I dont own an msp, can you not read my signature? I just have numorous friends with them, who.. GET THIS... have had problems! A basic turbo honda will own a basic turbo protege any day anyway. BUT your still in a civic or integra that will get stolen the minute you leave it out in the open.
 
MP3skaterNC said:
I dont own an msp, can you not read my signature? I just have numorous friends with them, who.. GET THIS... have had problems! A basic turbo honda will own a basic turbo protege any day anyway. BUT your still in a civic or integra that will get stolen the minute you leave it out in the open.

Yes...The Almighty SIGNATURE, Da Da Da!

I know that dummy. I was simply trying to be funny. There is so much V-TEC hype on the planet, I needed to vent. Thanks

(stopwar)
 
jeckel- let us know what they do about your warranty and how the issue comes along. I've had my turbo replaced (not as serious as your problems) and so far so good.

MP5T- I think you missed the point. Jeckel isn't suing or pursing mazda legally in any way. What he is doing is using the proper avenues to report a problematic experience with a car to help out other consumers. This is the very purpose of the agencies he has or intends to contact. I'm sure you have the equivelent in America Jr.
 
All these problems are scaring the living s**** out of me. I'm in the market for a new car,(wife and I have a child on the way) . We both have Honda Civics, hers is a LX mine is an Si. I want b00st, but man, is it just CERTAIN MSPs or ALL that have these similar problems?
 
Twizted, I thought you had a modified MSP. Didn't you have the test pipe? I also thought you were boosted. Not trying to elude to anything, just curious.
 
Turbo Matty P said:
Twizted, I thought you had a modified MSP. Didn't you have the test pipe? I also thought you were boosted.

i did have an apex downpipe on for awhile but after a couple months i got tired of looking at the check engine light so i sold it to another board member. as far as the boost goes, it's remained untouched since day one. there's no turbo timer, no boost gauge no nothin on the car. almost glad about it too.

Boostisgood- i'll be sure to leave a post over there as to my problems and whatnot.
 
Back