Another turbo P5 thread...

Dyno'd... 200 wtrq; 180whp @ 5500rpm then it tapers off. I'm definitely having some issues that need to be sorted. I'll post the logs later.
 
max power at 5600rpm 9.1psi 10.8 afr
max torque at 4300 and 4400rpm 9.6psi 11.4 afr

6400rpm... 123hp and 101tq, 8.8psi and 9.9afr eeeeww!!
 
Wow....great #'s Pat. I hope I can get somewhere close to that. It will be a good comparison between our two cars once I get my work finished this week.
 
200 is pretty good for this motor.

Did you make more than one run? Hopefully, you didn't burn a hole in a piston after 5,500RPM when the power started dropping.

Did you scan timing and fuel during the run?
 
I made about 3 or 4 runs; a little change in the tuning each time. The car has fell flat around 6k since I went turbo, now I have dyno evidence to prove my theory. It WAS hitting max duty at 6k+ and cutting out, but I'm not sure if it was after I made some changes. I can just go out on the street and do a run real quick with the laptop logging and check.

The Microtech logs timing but I didn't take a look at that yet. As far as fuel goes, we couldn't figure out how to easily hook up their system to monitor the pressure. That would have been nice to figure out what was going on with the max duty... I don't think the injectors are too small (440s), but perhaps the stock fuel pump can't keep up.

I'll post the sheets with AFR, power/torque, and boost pressure in a little bit. I have to type them in or something. Maybe there is a program that can convert the jpg to xml, that'd be nice :D

This was pretty much a baseline and got my boost section cleaned up a little bit. Now I have an idea of what areas need lots of fuel taken out and which don't. Eventually I'll take a road trip to a shop that can better tune it (and maybe mess with timing).

Here a couple pics my friend snapped of my car yesterday at a Honduh meet :D
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Dyno logs attached... well some of them
 

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wow that's a painful torque fall off.... usually can even that out with some timing advance as you pull through redline, but don't know what the operator was or wasn't doing and I didn't see an AFR log tied on there... but overally looks good... what psi were you at?

stock fuel pump could explain it... I know we were able to push 250-260 whp at 15-16 psi on stock fuel injectors with a walbro in-tank pump and stock FPR.
 
wow.. they have you just sick rich at as the rpm's go up.. I usually try not to ever let a car go richer than about 11.5 unless I have detonation issues I can't solve with timing... I usually tune to about 11.8-12.1 through boost...
 
Unfortunately that was me tuning. We did about 4 pulls and in between each I'd mess with the maps. I have the ATP wastegate which should do about 8psi, but I did turn my boost controller up a decent amount. For whatever reason, the boost also tapers off in the top end. I may have to try a new in-tank fuel pump.

Steve, you don't have a dyno at your shop do you? Maybe I could make a road trip to Wisconsin :D
 
Nope, no dyno... we road tune all the cars I touch... dynos are too finicky and difficult to balance out a tune, much faster to do it on the road... and there are ways to do it safely and without doing stupid fast speeds or anything foolish.
 
and btw... I'm only about 45-50 minutes from dubuque.

Oh nice! We may have to plan some sort of tuning meet some time in the near future. I have a bunch of friends in Iowa City so I could go visit them and crash there, then meet up with you. Plus I have some vacation time I need to use.

What Walbro pump do you recommend? I didn't find one on your site.

I'm definitely going to do some more street tuning now that I have an idea of where my AFRs are at. My AEM WB doesn't read below 11:1. It must be an older model or something because I know people that say theirs will read much lower.
 
Oh nice! We may have to plan some sort of tuning meet some time in the near future. I have a bunch of friends in Iowa City so I could go visit them and crash there, then meet up with you. Plus I have some vacation time I need to use.

What Walbro pump do you recommend? I didn't find one on your site.

I'm definitely going to do some more street tuning now that I have an idea of where my AFRs are at. My AEM WB doesn't read below 11:1. It must be an older model or something because I know people that say theirs will read much lower.

i think it's the miata pump.
 
Do you find that your car is more quiet now with the stock MSP manifold? I'm pretty sure your NA set up was about the same as mine.....header/mid-pipe/cat-back.

I'm sick of my commute to work and the 75 mph drone.
 
People have told me that my car is quieter, and perhaps it is when I'm just casually driving by. These people don't daily it. Drones... back-fires... all sorts of good stuff. Perhaps with a 2.5" exhaust it'd be better.

I also had a co-worker tell me he could hear my blow-off valve from his apartment as I was getting on the interstate O_o

So I'm not really sure--it was about 3 months in between the car running NA and turbo. Here's a couple videos which kind of make me think that it is slightly quieter with turbo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRujOLMc8Nk
turbo (no exhaust)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k38A8hx9FUQ
 
I hate you for finding the insturment bezel for your gauges. I have one of ForceFed's radio bezels. It's going to be tight and clean but I'm going to have 3 gauges so I'm going to have to get a pillar pod too......which I didn't want to do. Oh well, I'll stop junking up your thread.
 
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