What EMS systems are there?
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Little Beavis
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Can't we all just get along?
This is the main reason I hardly even post.
Nick is by far one of the BEST tuners out there in terms of build knowledge and he has always helped me out. Is he opinionated, YES, but we all are to some extent. I can also vouch for Turfburn (obviously) as I know the guy doesn't make a profit on this stuff, he just enjoys helping others out and learning as he goes. In the past year he has done more reading and research than anyone else I know about these cars. He's measured (osc.) the ecu inputs and outputs repeatedly on several cars to figure out how to improve things. He tries. . .and if he isn't at Nick's "level" so what. Yes, he has a "day job" as most of us do, and no he doesn't have a building with NSN on the front - but that is a GOOD thing, do you want to buy car parts for a reasonable price and pay nothing more or do you want to buy car parts and pay for the brick and mortar of someone else? This doesn't mean MPI is bad, MPI is the "day job" and I admire Nick for making a living doing something many of us love or would love to do. It is awesome, but that doesn't mean that it is the only way to do business.
This forum (that I once loved) is such a pile of crap with vendor fights and bickering and members jumping from one side to the other. . .frustrating and sickening. Those that want to help get bashed, and it is a wonder that any vendor sticks around.
So, what does it mean. . .I was one of the early turbo'd cars. Running spool and then stuff from MPI. Didn't blow my motor, still have the car, runs good but not perfect, and I would have NO fear whatsoever letting Steve OR Nick work on it. This isn't Highlander. . .there doesn't have to be "only one"!
This is the main reason I hardly even post.
Nick is by far one of the BEST tuners out there in terms of build knowledge and he has always helped me out. Is he opinionated, YES, but we all are to some extent. I can also vouch for Turfburn (obviously) as I know the guy doesn't make a profit on this stuff, he just enjoys helping others out and learning as he goes. In the past year he has done more reading and research than anyone else I know about these cars. He's measured (osc.) the ecu inputs and outputs repeatedly on several cars to figure out how to improve things. He tries. . .and if he isn't at Nick's "level" so what. Yes, he has a "day job" as most of us do, and no he doesn't have a building with NSN on the front - but that is a GOOD thing, do you want to buy car parts for a reasonable price and pay nothing more or do you want to buy car parts and pay for the brick and mortar of someone else? This doesn't mean MPI is bad, MPI is the "day job" and I admire Nick for making a living doing something many of us love or would love to do. It is awesome, but that doesn't mean that it is the only way to do business.
This forum (that I once loved) is such a pile of crap with vendor fights and bickering and members jumping from one side to the other. . .frustrating and sickening. Those that want to help get bashed, and it is a wonder that any vendor sticks around.
So, what does it mean. . .I was one of the early turbo'd cars. Running spool and then stuff from MPI. Didn't blow my motor, still have the car, runs good but not perfect, and I would have NO fear whatsoever letting Steve OR Nick work on it. This isn't Highlander. . .there doesn't have to be "only one"!
Little Beavis said:
and for the public record I freely admit and state that Nick, Beau, Juan, and probably plenty of others can tune circles around me. I can tune a car and make it run well, but there is plenty to learn and plenty to do before I'd even hold a candle to those guys who have been doing it for ages. I've learned a lot of tricks that I'm happy to share, and I know that there are hundreds and hundreds more to go. That... and my knoweldge is very much focused on the Mazda Protege and now the Mazda 3... nowhere near the breadth of the likes of Nick. and I'll certainly not claim otherwise.
For me I was total noob to turbo's and tuning. But I was lucky to have two guys with strong knowledge to take the time to help me (You know who you are). We all know that the MPI tunes different for each car. They can be running the same exact set up but still requires tuning.
Tim took the time to tune my set up and did an awesome job at it. I know a great deal more now! In the beginning I did have some CEL's. But that was just part of the tuning process. Last time I got a CEL was around early September. I stomped on the car getting onto a freeway when still cold and threw a cel (running lean). I cleared it with my scanner and it never came back. It happened once and I learned from it. I've been running my car without CEL's for at least 5 months now. So imo the MPI works well for my type of application.
Tim took the time to tune my set up and did an awesome job at it. I know a great deal more now! In the beginning I did have some CEL's. But that was just part of the tuning process. Last time I got a CEL was around early September. I stomped on the car getting onto a freeway when still cold and threw a cel (running lean). I cleared it with my scanner and it never came back. It happened once and I learned from it. I've been running my car without CEL's for at least 5 months now. So imo the MPI works well for my type of application.
rednecks_r_us
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azeli73 said:
That is good to hear
Focus said:
I was told that the custom gears had a "cost" of 1400. The only custom gears I know about are the 2800 dollar ones.
If he is only making 140 bucks then great, because that is a pretty minor profit margin for that large of a piece with a brick and mortar shop especially when considering the marings on rods etc that are taken. But it is not what I was told.
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Little Beavis said:
Here Here!!!! I almost forgot why I liked you!!! Things have DEFNIATLY changed since the day and I do wish they woudl go back, but they never will. It's too bad this stuff drove you away, but I understand, I almost did the same thing a couple time, but people still need help and I try as much as I can to help since this forum has given me so much help. It's always good to see a new post form you man!!!! Till next time!(thumb)
igdrasil said:
How much has he spend on HW and SW changes? He has to pay for each change. how much do you think car dealerships make off cars? It's business man, there's always a mark up, you can't get away from that.
edit: He's even posted that he will sell you an SMT-6 if you want, but it will NOT be the MPI! Do you think it costs Hiboost anywhere NEAR the price he charges for his kits? He gets his stuff from South America, so it's dirt cheap. That's just the name of the game! Who are we to say what a business's profit should be.
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TurfBurn said:
You must be talking to MAM.
This the only post that I will make regarding my pricing and profits. The gears set that we had done we complete upgrades. New gears, input shaft, output shaft, new ring gears and new bearings.
It is not the replacement gear set for the stock trans that some of the people may have got and or talked about. These gears will not work with the stock shafts. We add needle bearings where the stock unit does not use them. This setup will take well over 600 whp. Even if you installed the other gear set that you people are talking about the problems are not all gone. There is a problem with how the gears stay lubed. This problem is taken cared of with our set up. So lets not compare one cheeper replacemet gears set with my complete trans upgrade.
As for pricing. From the start I have told anyone who PMs me that the cost is nuts and that no one will go for them. One did and one is going to. If another vendor on this forum can get the same trans kit for less money then that is ******* great. The place that I deal with does not do me any great deal on them anyway. So after the cost of shipping and custom fees the cost goes up. Then I add the asshole tax for some of the people on this forum. Now we are over priced. So if we get rid of some of the assholes would the price come down? No not really, but it would be great to bill things that way anyhow.
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