warranty voided by mazda rep

4 hp...76 bucks?
shouldn't you and your si be concerned with torque, being that the ms3 has twice the amount of foot pounds you do

4.5whp, better than putting a SRI because it will heat soak and a CAI might hydrolock and you have to take off the bumper to clean the filter and shouldn't you be concerned with your turbo smoking or running too rich. Man they're are really a lot douchebags with MS3s around.
 
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ive seen info on TB spacers online, apparently they are supposed to work. I considered buying one for my cavalier years ago but someone installed one on his and told me it did absolutely nothing for a gain and was a waste of money

this one actually works and is dyno proven.
 
C'mon guys, play nice. We're all car enthusiasts here. Let's not get an otherwise good thread locked for some Honda/Mazda war.
 
haha.

don't mind him man. ms3 ftw?? :) nice si!

once vtec pops, panties drop. :)

Thanks, IDK what some guys have to prove man it just like how neon SRT 4 owner were back in the day. I love the MS3 and was going to get it but the si was cheaper and my MSP left a little bad taste in my mouth with Mazda


Yeah the new si makes a beautiful sound when it hits Vtec. Makes drive a little too fast sometimes.
 
You can't hold a dealer responsible for verbal agreements. Let that POS salesman sue me for a "verbal agreement". Maybe the salesman should be charged with extortion.

In most states, an oral agreement for less than $500 can be enforced.
 
Thanks, IDK what some guys have to prove man it just like how neon SRT 4 owner were back in the day. I love the MS3 and was going to get it but the si was cheaper and my MSP left a little bad taste in my mouth with Mazda


Yeah the new si makes a beautiful sound when it hits Vtec. Makes drive a little too fast sometimes.

definitely don't mind me. (hi)

i sold the car you drive for a while. i like that car. there is brilliant engineering in that car.
 
In most states, an oral agreement for less than $500 can be enforced.
So if the salesman says, "Sure, I'll throw in a set of all-weather mats and a cargo net," and you go back to get 'em, the dealer will want to know where it says that on the "We owe/You owe" document. "The salesman had no authority to tell you that, and there's no documentation, sorry."

The judge will say "Any witnesses? No? Well, it's your word against the salesman's." Who, BTW doesn't even work there any more.
 
So if the salesman says, "Sure, I'll throw in a set of all-weather mats and a cargo net," and you go back to get 'em, the dealer will want to know where it says that on the "We owe/You owe" document. "The salesman had no authority to tell you that, and there's no documentation, sorry."

The judge will say "Any witnesses? No? Well, it's your word against the salesman's." Who, BTW doesn't even work there any more.

Had that EXACT thing happen, but luckily it didn't go to court or anything

I took the car home, the guy said he put the cargo net and floor mats in the back (yes I know I should have checked them) and once I got there I had nothing in the back. So I went back and he handed them to me, and told me in the process "You know, I had to take these from another customer's car to give to you". What an asshole.
 
Man they're are really a lot douchebags with MS3s around.

so you come on this section, not owning an MS3 at all (but being a MSP owner), posting a GIANT RED CIVIC SI in your signature with a screen name to match, talking about US being douchebags??? Go post on the Si forum or go back to the MSP section..... This forum is about MS3, not about civics, they have their own forum for that crap.

Look at this guy talking like every other Civic owner does... "ooh look at this mod I can get an extra 4 hp out of this thing, its a MUST BUY!" Like you'll actually notice that 4 hp when you have no torque. Might as well throw some of those fender gills on there as well, the stick on types. You'll notice the gain from that just as much as the 4hp I bet. I fully agree with phillyb, you should be working on mods to gain some torque. And Si's in vtec... who gives a s*** they all sound the same and have sounded the same in vtec for the last 8 years.
 
so you come on this section, not owning an MS3 at all (but being a MSP owner), posting a GIANT RED CIVIC SI in your signature with a screen name to match, talking about US being douchebags??? Go post on the Si forum or go back to the MSP section..... This forum is about MS3, not about civics, they have their own forum for that crap.

Look at this guy talking like every other Civic owner does... "ooh look at this mod I can get an extra 4 hp out of this thing, its a MUST BUY!" Like you'll actually notice that 4 hp when you have no torque. Might as well throw some of those fender gills on there as well, the stick on types. You'll notice the gain from that just as much as the 4hp I bet. I fully agree with phillyb, you should be working on mods to gain some torque. And Si's in vtec... who gives a s*** they all sound the same and have sounded the same in vtec for the last 8 years.

I said some not all, but I guess you're just a douchebag in general. I'm surprised you don't have a neon SRT-4 too.
 
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Douche'ing a vagina with a Philly B? For some reason this conversation reminds me of Bill Clinton. :)

If you don't get it...don't feel bad. It probably just means you don't "smoke".
 
so you come on this section, not owning an MS3 at all (but being a MSP owner), posting a GIANT RED CIVIC SI in your signature with a screen name to match, talking about US being douchebags??? Go post on the Si forum or go back to the MSP section..... This forum is about MS3, not about civics, they have their own forum for that crap.

Look at this guy talking like every other Civic owner does... "ooh look at this mod I can get an extra 4 hp out of this thing, its a MUST BUY!" Like you'll actually notice that 4 hp when you have no torque. Might as well throw some of those fender gills on there as well, the stick on types. You'll notice the gain from that just as much as the 4hp I bet. I fully agree with phillyb, you should be working on mods to gain some torque. And Si's in vtec... who gives a s*** they all sound the same and have sounded the same in vtec for the last 8 years.

Why do you have such a hard-on about torque? It has nothing to do with acceleration. Acceleration is completely dependent on (wheel) hp.

Dumping on other peoples cars was cool back in high school.
 
Torque has EVERYTHING to do with acceleration. Torque is what gets the mass moving.
 
Why do you have such a hard-on about torque? It has nothing to do with acceleration. Acceleration is completely dependent on (wheel) hp.

Dumping on other peoples cars was cool back in high school.
Unless car people abuse the vocabulary, I can say as a physics teacher that torque on a wheel will affect acceleration greatly.
 

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