SPOOL Stage3 dyno stats!!!
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man, wish I was in the states, I'd skip getting the MSP and just get the spoolin setup. Sweet. But 3500 with conversion, duty taxes, installation etc,is heading towards 7 grand for me and I'll still need new tires and s***. it'll cost me about 2-3 grand to get into the speed, everything new....grantd it is not going to be as fast.
But it's made by knight.......mushin25 said:
Knight's F/I stuff sucks.......
You can search the net and find pages of rants about knight turbos.
JE will custom build pistons to spec,
and Pauter has forged low comp pistons & rods in stock for the 2.0L
I highly doubt Thomas Knight actually makes the pistons himself. You need some serious equiptment to make rods and pistons. He most likely just orders them from a separate company to those specifications. If the ones he sells are forged steel and they are only $2000 for both pistons and rods together, I'd hop all over it. The rods by themselves are going to cost you around $1500 from JE or any other company. I'd give him a call and get the full scoop before ruling him out. Just don't buy his turbo kit. That's made by him.
DooMer_MP3
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newf said:
Crazy idea, but could you drive to the states, have the package delivered to some location (maybe a member from here you trust), and have the install done in the U.S. and drive back unknown? I'm babbling, but it sounds like fun
.Chris
I just had a thought about this stroker kit TK advertises. Most likely it is just a set of forged rods that are slightly shorter than the stock ones. This will give you a larger displacment because the piston will go down farther. This may be a good idea for those of you that want around 300hp. I believe it would be easily atainable if you had shorter rods. Here is why.
1. You will have more than 2 liters of displacement.
2. Your compression ratio will drop probably between 8:1 and 8.5:1.
3. With the lower compression and higher displacement, you will easily be able to run up to around 20psi of boost.
4. with the shorter rods, your RPM will increase and you may even be able to rev to 9000 rpm.
But the only downfall of the higher RPM, you may need to replace the valve springs with stiffer ones.
Anyone have any input on this?
1. You will have more than 2 liters of displacement.
2. Your compression ratio will drop probably between 8:1 and 8.5:1.
3. With the lower compression and higher displacement, you will easily be able to run up to around 20psi of boost.
4. with the shorter rods, your RPM will increase and you may even be able to rev to 9000 rpm.
But the only downfall of the higher RPM, you may need to replace the valve springs with stiffer ones.
Anyone have any input on this?
mikesmazda155
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Ok Ben I have a dumb question, what is a stroker kit, and what does it do?:wtf:
All a stroker kit does is that it gives you a higher displacement without boring out the cylinders. It's basically a "bolt on" higher displacement kit. You still have to resurface the cylinder walls though anytime you put in new pistons.
Basically all they are are shorter rods. Think about it this way, when the piston is at bottom dead center, if the rod were shorter, there would be more room inside the cylinder. This is what is called a stroker kit. I would even say that this is the only way you will reach 500hp on this block. It will probably go over 2.2L also. You could probably get it up to 2.5L like the WRX stroker kit.
Basically all they are are shorter rods. Think about it this way, when the piston is at bottom dead center, if the rod were shorter, there would be more room inside the cylinder. This is what is called a stroker kit. I would even say that this is the only way you will reach 500hp on this block. It will probably go over 2.2L also. You could probably get it up to 2.5L like the WRX stroker kit.
MP3skaterNC
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thats actually not a bad idea, but with the issues that probe owners have had with the TK products, i dont know if id want to jump on this too quickly. perhaps another company is going to come out with a stroker kit for the protege2.0 or is there one availble for the probe/mx-6 engine?
You can have your own made. All you need are the dimensions of the stock rods. Then give those dimensions to JE or any other company that makes rods. Tell them what displacement you want, and they can make them for you. If you are raising the displacement, the compression will be lowered and I'd say you can stick witht he stock pistons. You will just need forged rods. Forged pistons won't hurt though.
big_ben said:
No way could our engines rev to 9K. A little higher (than stock) maybe, but 9K???!!!!
Yeah, you'd have to have some valve/spring/head work done, PLUS you'd definitely need some aggressive cams.
Good thinking tho.
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I could see 9K. Thihnk about it. If the rod length was shortened by .5" to 1", everything would be closer to the crank. There would be much less effort to turn it all around the crank. Therefore, the rpm would increase. I have no idea how much, but your rpm range would definetely change. I was just guessing at 9000 since that is what the honda motors rev to when you put in shorter rods and the Jspec ecu.
here is the reply i got from tk on his stroker kit, I offer a 2.2 strokerkit for $1995 that includes the pistons, rods, stroked crank, pins, rings, and rod bearings, he also said he orders these kits, which is why you can get any commpression you want, he does not make it himself. i am waiting to hear from him on who makes these parts, as soon as i hear i will post it.
big_ben said:
Right, but Hondas rev higher stock anyway. And they're KNOWN for their rev capabilities. I hear what you're saying, but i think 8K would be more realistic. Who knows...
No one until someone does it.
I elect Ben.
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