Seafoam musings

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Protege5 2003
Dogma has it that this is what happens in a Seafoam intake treatment on a P5.

1. Seafoam is sucked in through the brake booster hose
2. It enters the cylinders, coats the valves, and generally spreads itself around.
3. While the motor sits off it dissolves varnish.
4. When the motor is turned back on it is burned in, or ejected from, the cylinders.

I wonder though how accurate that description really is.

Isn't the path from the booster hose to the intake valves uphill and around at least one turn? Certainly some of the Seafoam is going to be reduced to very small droplets and these will be light enough to be sucked into the engine as a mist. The rest of it, probably even the majority of it, is going to smack into the walls of the intake, coating that intake, and then flow downhill (from gravity) and towards the intake (from air flow). Some of the components are also going to evaporate. This might explain to some extent why the intake treatment smokes for so long - it just takes time for the pool of Seafoam in the intake to migrate to the motor and then pass through it.

Does it really make sense that the material sucked directly into the motor would be present in such a high concentration that it would really do something? The motor is hot, and this stuff burns. Maybe when the motor is turned off it spins around a few times with the spark off, and that lets Seafoam accumulate in all the cylinders? If that's the case wouldn't you want the running motor to be turned off while the Seafoam was still being sucked into the intake, as opposed to letting it all suck in, and then a few seconds later turning off the car.

If one of you is changing your spark plugs soon it would be interesting to see what happens if a couple of CC's of seafoam are pipetted into each cylinder. (Don't get any on the plug hole threads.) My guess is that the car may belch smoke once at start up, and then nothing, and then maybe a little more smoke later when the catalytic converters heat up and burn off whatever Seafoam was sprayed on them. It doesn't seem likely it will smoke continuously for several minutes, as is the case with the usual intake treatment.
 
i have done it with the motor turned off(just pouring it down the brake booster tube..

and i have done it with putting in though the spark plug holes


and with the spark plug way it doesn't smoke that much like you said
the other way works really good too...but it is easier to hyrolock the motor


Dogma has it that this is what happens in a Seafoam intake treatment on a P5.

1. Seafoam is sucked in through the brake booster hose
2. It enters the cylinders, coats the valves, and generally spreads itself around.
3. While the motor sits off it dissolves varnish.
4. When the motor is turned back on it is burned in, or ejected from, the cylinders.

I wonder though how accurate that description really is.

Isn't the path from the booster hose to the intake valves uphill and around at least one turn? Certainly some of the Seafoam is going to be reduced to very small droplets and these will be light enough to be sucked into the engine as a mist. The rest of it, probably even the majority of it, is going to smack into the walls of the intake, coating that intake, and then flow downhill (from gravity) and towards the intake (from air flow). Some of the components are also going to evaporate. This might explain to some extent why the intake treatment smokes for so long - it just takes time for the pool of Seafoam in the intake to migrate to the motor and then pass through it.

Does it really make sense that the material sucked directly into the motor would be present in such a high concentration that it would really do something? The motor is hot, and this stuff burns. Maybe when the motor is turned off it spins around a few times with the spark off, and that lets Seafoam accumulate in all the cylinders? If that's the case wouldn't you want the running motor to be turned off while the Seafoam was still being sucked into the intake, as opposed to letting it all suck in, and then a few seconds later turning off the car.

If one of you is changing your spark plugs soon it would be interesting to see what happens if a couple of CC's of seafoam are pipetted into each cylinder. (Don't get any on the plug hole threads.) My guess is that the car may belch smoke once at start up, and then nothing, and then maybe a little more smoke later when the catalytic converters heat up and burn off whatever Seafoam was sprayed on them. It doesn't seem likely it will smoke continuously for several minutes, as is the case with the usual intake treatment.
 
What does it mean to hydro lock the motor?

is this the correct way to use seafoam?:

start engine
unplug brake booster tube
maintain the rev's at 2500
pour 1/2 pint seafoam in brake booster slowly
raise revs to 3500, pour another 1/2 pint seafoam in brake booster slowly.
when finished, shut engine off.
Pour 1/2 pint seafoam in crank case, and 1/2 pint seafoam in gas tank.
Let car sit for 10 minutes.
run car for 10 minutes.
Shut car off and change oil.
Drive slowly for 10 minutes.
Drive fast/accelerate fast for 10 minutes.

Complete? Are these the correct steps in the correct order?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrolock

sorry for the link but it will explain it better then i can.....

and this is how "seafoam"says to use the product

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Short answer - the draw from the vacuum is plenty enough to suck it through the intake and cylinders. It really works too.
 
I used it on my 95 Isuzu Rodeo and it ran a lot better after that. I tried with my P5 and it smoked a little bit, but not much. Must still be fairly clean i guess.
 
Change your oil after you do it. Some of that carbon slips past the rings into the oil as it dissolves.

That being said, I used it on one of my Cobras which has a notoriously oiled intake from the PCV and I disassembled it off afterward and it was still completely filthy and required soaking and scrubbing.
 
I just bought some seafoam. So basically I pour contents into areas listed while car running, remove spark plugs/ put new ones in, change oil, and drive car?
 
I just bought some seafoam. So basically I pour contents into areas listed while car running, remove spark plugs/ put new ones in, change oil, and drive car?

I believe these are the correct steps:

start engine
unplug brake booster tube
maintain the rev's at 2500
pour 1/2 pint seafoam in brake booster slowly
raise revs to 3500, pour another 1/2 pint seafoam in brake booster slowly.
when finished, shut engine off.
Pour 1/2 pint seafoam in crank case, and 1/2 pint seafoam in gas tank.
Let car sit for 10 minutes.
run car for 5 minutes.
Shut car off and change oil and spark plugs.
Drive slowly for 10 minutes.
Drive fast/accelerate fast for 10 minutes.

Older versions of sea foam MAY damage your o2 sensors
 
What does it mean to hydro lock the motor?

is this the correct way to use seafoam?:

start engine
unplug brake booster tube
maintain the rev's at 2500
pour 1/2 pint seafoam in brake booster slowly
raise revs to 3500, pour another 1/2 pint seafoam in brake booster slowly.
when finished, shut engine off.
Pour 1/2 pint seafoam in crank case, and 1/2 pint seafoam in gas tank.
Let car sit for 10 minutes.
run car for 10 minutes.
Shut car off and change oil.
Drive slowly for 10 minutes.
Drive fast/accelerate fast for 10 minutes.

Complete? Are these the correct steps in the correct order?
i'd recommend a spark lug change as well as they tend to sometimes turn purple and cause misfires from the seafoam cleaning
 
I just followed these procedures to the letter. My car is an '02 P5 with 127,000 miles.

I did not see a single molecule of white smoke, but the motor is running much more smoothly and throttle response is much improved.

My Check Engine light did come on when I was adding the Seafoam to the vacuum line. But after I changed the oil and plugs I reset the ECU (pulled positive off the battery for a few minutes) and the light went away.

So, money well spent. Thumbs up for the Seafoam.
 
^ just did mine and it didn't smoke either...

I purposely did it at work because I didn't want to smoke up the neighborhood.

Got on here to search to see if I did something wrong, looks like I did it right...
 
^ just did mine and it didn't smoke either...

I purposely did it at work because I didn't want to smoke up the neighborhood.

Got on here to search to see if I did something wrong, looks like I did it right...

lol mine didnt smoke at all either. when i did it to my h22 it didnt smoke either. when i did it to my bro's accord (which he never ook care of) it smoked like crazy rofl. so i guess i keep my motors clean
 
The best way to hook this up is to have a pressurized canister, disconnect the fuel pump and hook the canister directly to the fuel rail. I did it at the shop a few months ago and OMG!!! it made a huge difference.
 
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