putting cai on a turbo car

[promp3]

...is stupid, what is the point of getting cool air just to compress it and get it hot um... Der.

does any body have a logical reson why a cai would be productive on a turbo charged engine?

 

[jersey_emt]

It still would be cooler with the CAI than without. Put cooler air into the turbo and it won't be heated up as much.

 

[PaulMP3]

very debatable topic...

 

[smp3000]

Yeah, I started a thread a while back... Very debatable. In my opinion the short ram works better. Only because I wonder how much cooler it is after passing through the intercooler. I wish someone would do some tests.

 

[mspdfreak]

Cooler air is denser air, so there is more oxygen being compressed, for more power in the cylinder.

 

[NeverSober]

There have been hundereds of these threads. They usually turn into a flamewar, right after a post much like mine. Hahahah


Chris

 

[mp5jeff]

yea i guess thats why all real drag cars(you know, 8 second turbo cars) use no intakes on the turbos right?

 

[ozz]

a cai would also help cool the turbo housing more then a sri by pulling colder air(posably helping it last long at higher boost)

 

[1FASTMP5]

msp w/cai= sucks ass!!!! maxes out you maf easy ass hell.....and sounds like s*** imo

on my car it sounded like s*** and hit cut like a mofo......with a short ram it's much better. whats the point of having a cai if you have a intercooler anyways! thats the intercooler's job to cold charge the intake air.

 

[smp3000]

It's a debate on a few temps cooler Vs. shorter distance. Who knows

 

[NeverSober]

1fastmp5, what are you talking about? I have the spool cai, I have never even heard of anyone hitting the fuel cut just from putting on a CAI, thats ridiculous. And it sounds the same as a MSP with a SRI. So exactly when did you hear/see this msp hittin fuel cut after adding a CAI???


Chris

 

[mp5jeff]

the msp's run LEANER with a cai, as would most any turbo car, ive already seen dyno charts from the companies selling the damn things, if you guys wonder why you make a little more power, thats why. Or you could tune the a/f curve to make more power, but maybe thats just how i think.

 

[mp5jeff]

a cai would also help cool the turbo housing more then a sri by pulling colder air(posably helping it last long at higher boost)

you obviously have no clue how ******* hot a turbo housing gets, a few degrees of colder air WILL NOT affect it.

 

[NeverSober]

Yes but on the msp it is already rich as hell, so it's not hurting it any.


Chris

 

[mp5jeff]

yes, you aren't getting my point though, the car can be tuned with stock airbox to make more power then slapping on a cai...

 

[mp5jeff]

but then again, alot of people won't want to spend money for the tools needed to tune it...

 

[low_psi]

werd. cai pointless

 

[mp5jeff]

also, a cai will most likely give the little lag that the t25 has a little more lag(not much but im sure it affects it)

 

[servoeyes]

1) With colder air and more air a turbo becomes more efficient. With hotter air, a turbo is less efficient. If you are boosting beyond 10psi on this car, with everything else stock, you are pushing the efficiency of the turbo.

2) Have you ever felt how much heat is in the engine compartment of the MSP? You want to suck that s*** into your tiny turbo, decreasing the efficiency, adding to your heat soak problems, and then expect it to actually be significantly colder after running through the stock IC?

3) Ram air would be a good idea on this car, or a true cold air system with fresh air flowing over it...but, short of that, you use a CAI.

4) not every car is the same...just because one car doesn't use a CAi and that works for it, doesn't mean that that's the case for *every* car.

 

[mp5jeff]

everyone brings up how the cai brings in colder air, how much colder is it? i bet no one knows because theres never been a test as far as i know. It all depends WHERE the turbo and intake it located also.