I would definitely get into contact with him and see if you guys can fab a turbokit with an evo turbo that he most likely has laying around. I can help you source all of the parts you will need also. I know this isn't your ordinary turbo upgrade for your car but I really don't see anything else suited for these vehicles. I get excited just thinking about it. Think about it.
Nocturnalspeed's Welcome & Build Thread
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Im sorry but this is grossly inaccurate my 25r is fully spooled (curretly 8psi off wastegate) well below 3k 28rs turbos w/ a .64 hot side are fully spooled around low to mid 3k and the 28rs w/ a .86 hot side that im getting ready to drop on my car will be fully spooled around 3800
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Heres the deal from my end of all this: Shane (as always) you are certainly spot on again my brother. The Evo guys have a whole different personna with the idea of modding. My brother has an Evo8 pushing 450awhp, upgraded turbo, diff blah blah.... and I built it for him. He loves it, but got REALLY pissed off when I was blowing past him with my so called "piece of s***" Steed manifold. There is so much support for ANY of the Evo's is sickening. The fact that the Protege is unique, stylish and fun as hell to drive just makes it a win win. Try to find 2 the same, I bet you cant. Now an Evo on the other hand.... cookie cutter all day long with those. Anyone can mod it because of that.
Revmoto: not sure what exactly your intentions of being on this forum are at this point. All 16 of your posts have not been very supportive about what we do here. If you have actual proof of a manifold outperforming the Steed, lets see it. Or even show me a tubular set up with more power than mine with a full spool at less than 3500rpm. Think about the way those are designed and convince anyone theres no restriction with all those twists and bends. My Steed mani has direct air flow aimed right at the turbine making the GT3071R spool at the same RPM as the tiny VF-22 that used to be on there. But you wouldnt know that since you just drive an Evo.
Nocturnal, Shane, Sandspeed, 2.0t03speed... : You all have one hell of a ride anyone would be envious of. Its such an injustice to not be able to throw the non-believers into the passenger seat to shut them up. AND yet, each one of your cars are nothing alike. hmmmm....
Revmoto: not sure what exactly your intentions of being on this forum are at this point. All 16 of your posts have not been very supportive about what we do here. If you have actual proof of a manifold outperforming the Steed, lets see it. Or even show me a tubular set up with more power than mine with a full spool at less than 3500rpm. Think about the way those are designed and convince anyone theres no restriction with all those twists and bends. My Steed mani has direct air flow aimed right at the turbine making the GT3071R spool at the same RPM as the tiny VF-22 that used to be on there. But you wouldnt know that since you just drive an Evo.
Nocturnal, Shane, Sandspeed, 2.0t03speed... : You all have one hell of a ride anyone would be envious of. Its such an injustice to not be able to throw the non-believers into the passenger seat to shut them up. AND yet, each one of your cars are nothing alike. hmmmm....
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s***, mybad (Shane) I didn't see this post haha. Must have got lost in the discussion yesterday.
They are on my list, but I'm not sure if there worth it or not. I've been reading around and hear nothing but bad things about them. If someone could give me some sick custom gear ratios for our car. I'll buy them, but for that price they better be godly.
EDIT: I'm not even sure if you were asking me that question or 2.0t03speed.
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2.0t03speed
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Lol he was talking to you I think
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Came from the evo troll
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Ive been looking through out the forums to find 2 protege's that are exactly or close to being the same, but I can't. You got me curious now.
It's pretty crazy how different protege owners are when it comes to modding these cars. It's awesome haha
Good stuff signature sounds.
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Revmoto, there's no reason for you to come on a Mazda board and preach about how great Evolutions are, and how much better they are than the Mazdaspeed Protege's. We all know they are great platforms, but as others said....they are a dime a dozen that cost between $30-$40k. Nocturnalspeed is building his MSP the right way, and after its all said and done he'll have a unique fully built (2600lb) MSP pushing 400+whp for the cost of stock (3000+ lbs) Evolution.......without the car note.
I'm sure once he's done with the build, he'll move on to another platform and reach a much higher HP goal.
I'm sure once he's done with the build, he'll move on to another platform and reach a much higher HP goal.
How can you think is a properly designed manifold? I have said all I have to say as far as the design theory behind it. If this was still the 90's that manifold would be the pinnacle of car technology but the times have changed and so has our technology. Any properly designed tubular manifold is going to outperform the steedpseed. You can argue this until you turn blue. Sorry if you feel offended by my slander on a product that you obvious support. I am sure if more options were available for this car we wouldn't be having this conversation.
As Second and I really don't want to turn this into an EVo vs. Mazdaspeed protege battle but your 30r protege will never beat a 450awhp evo. It just will never happen. The fastest Protege ran an 11.9. My evo ran an 11.3 at 121mph on a stock turbo. You ask we what my intentions on this forum are and I will tell you. I am searching for simple questions on this site for minor issues with my brothers MSP and not a single one of you can answer that. I am not just speaking as an EVO owner but a Senior Mechanical engineer student and member of our Formula SAE team. If anyone wants to let me test that garbage steedspeed manifold against a properly designed tubular I can have one made just to show you what you are missing out on.
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^ and your preaching to the choir.....tubular manifolds have excellent flow when built correctly, im sure most people know this. The bullet proof steedspeed manifold works just fine, and is an upgrade to the factory callaway manifold for the low cost of $500 - $650 with a lifetime warranty. There were vendors on here at one time who built solid tubular manifolds, that ran great......but at the moment, there are none out there.
Mental Addiction Motorsports turbo kits:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?216-Mental-Addiction-Motorsports-CLOSED
Mental Addiction Motorsports turbo kits:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?216-Mental-Addiction-Motorsports-CLOSED
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But this is what I am arguing though, that is not low cost. You guys are getting ripped off. A custom manifold will run you $700. I posted a link to a guy who is extremely talented and would love to do the job.
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We have plenty of top notch performance shops in Houston that would be happy to build a custom tubular manifold/turbo kit for Nocturnalspeed's MSP, and for any other platform for that matter. Though Nocturnalspeed is in the beginning stages of his build and the SteedSpeed manifold is easily accessible, and WILL push whatever power he throws at it while he's building. He's already stated he's going to a custom setup once he's built and has his MSP running correctly on his standalone. You have to remember, this isn't a whored out platform with a line of vendors making products like a civic, wrx, or evo......certain products cost a little more for platforms that have very little support.
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Let me put it to you this way, i've owned a mam thumper tubular mani and now own a T3 steedspeed mani. The thumper kept crackin near the wastegate piping so I got sick of getting it repaired and bought a steedspeed instead because of the simple but awesome desigin, Couldnt be happier and my car doesnt lag at all@10psi, but you have to check my mod list know why 
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This arguement could go on and on but it is a fact that steedspeed manis are realiable and make good power imo. I'd like to see more well and tubi designs sine mam is gone.
. This arguement could go on and on but it is a fact that steedspeed manis are realiable and make good power imo. I'd like to see more well and tubi designs sine mam is gone.
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Cwill did an 11.9 with slicks and 1wd with an open differential and most of us dont go to the track since thats where s*** breaks.
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LOL, because it's true.
i say back it up revmoto. you want to see this platform improve, make the kit, work with your boy and develop a mani.
i'll buy the first one and run it next to the steed on my built set up to prove you have something to offer our community.
the more support the better man. we need it. the only reason why the steed mani exists is because he agreed to build and sell it. which is what counts. can't say that for the handful of fabricators that have mouthed off and moved on leaving nothing but big ideas and mass crit behind. that s*** does us no good.
i'll buy the first one and run it next to the steed on my built set up to prove you have something to offer our community.
the more support the better man. we need it. the only reason why the steed mani exists is because he agreed to build and sell it. which is what counts. can't say that for the handful of fabricators that have mouthed off and moved on leaving nothing but big ideas and mass crit behind. that s*** does us no good.
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Its Nevrslo Motorsports in League City, Tx. About 15 minutes from where David lives....I know exactly who they are.
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and he had just over 400whp with a mostly full interior. I have cut out most of my steel interior panels, Lexan rear window, lighter than stock suspension (air ride), welded LSD, a better twin scroll turbo thats ported and gasket matched, a standalone fuel system and probably better low end power with full timing advance with my J&S safeguard protecting things. Since my dyno last fall when I did 397whp and 373wtq @ 26psi, I have smoothed my fuel maps, increased mid range timing and set boost to 30psi (max for my current MAP sensor). If I had something better than a stock transmission, I would be at the track the first day it opens (seasonal tracks only around here). But like Shane said, thats where we find the weak points on our car. The Evo and tons of other cars (like Honda for example) have a plethora of parts available and are cheap as hell. So if anyone here wanted to go down that "common road", they would have already. WE CHOOSE TO BE DIFFERENT!!! Its a very liberating feeling to live in a country where having a choice is a way of life.
One last thing about the SteedSpeed and I will shut up: Why would anyone ever consider it to be "ONLY" like a cast log manifold when its ports and passages are machined to perfection? Theres benefits to every style manifold out there, The Steed incorporates all and puts it into one sexy and great performing package. Look further into its design and then let me know when you want one. Bullet proof, great flow, direct air flow, divided, custom configured, black ceramic coated, low price, guranteed forever, doesnt crack, and looks great. Only one other manifold competes and it costs more and not easy to find. So you can bet if anything goes wrong, you are going to be stuck with the bill. NOT with the SteedSpeed tho!
Good day everyone!
