New Military Bill Trying to pass /Your thoughts

just another thought: if everyone is required to enter the services, who's gonna foot the bill for the millions of additional personnel for training/food/lodging??? hello higher taxes
 
I came from the Marines where they are allowed to serve, and they can if they want. BUt look at the Jessica Lynch crap.... she frezed in combat and got her fellow soldiers killed..... women dont belong in COMBAT but they can serve...
I am over 240 pounds and can run 3 miles in 22 minutes with a flack jacket.. I know women that can do it also... but then let them try to carry me if get wounded.... it is not going to happen
 
redpro01 said:
Coming from the military jsut recentlly and serving overseas in war.... I think that the military would be better off with people serving in it that want to be there. They will fight harder and have a better head on there shoulders.

Now on the flip side this country needs to throw people in the military it might give them a better view on there life and there country. I say that if you get called to serve and you run away you should be shot....


That's a very neo nazi view you have there
 
J dragon said:
That's a very neo nazi view you have there


maybe so but hey we can still wake up everyday and talk crap about our country and some have to sit here and listen to it.
Hey if you served, iam glad to have you next to me, but if you did not there is a total other side to this world
 
but it should always be a persons choice if they want to see that "other side"
 
evilmonkeyMSP said:
but it should always be a persons choice if they want to see that "other side"

yes I do agreee.. read what I said upabove..... those who chose will fight better, because of the choice....

I dont agree with forcing someone to the military, but if it does pass... what can you do about it?
 
redpro01 said:
I dont agree with forcing someone to the military, but if it does pass... what can you do about it?
put yourself outside of the medical/physical requirements for military service.
 
Rism said:
I never said a missile hit it did I. That just shows your lack of competence to engage in a coherent debate. Your weak grasp on the english language doesn't help either. I'm not here to argue with people who blindly believe the govt. I'm here to tell you I have been researching 9-11 since Dec 2001 and 90% of what the govt has told you is severely inaccurate. If you don't want to take the time to research it then you re doing yourself and this country a great injustice by letting this idea that the govt has explained 9-11 to live on.

This will be my last post in this thread


In one of the post (I never said you said it) it was stated that some think a missle hit the pentagon, and to that I ask explane the body parts of the people on the planes.

OUUU you're so witty!
 
I dont see it passing either... i am against it.....

I understand about the physical/mental situations that can and would come about with this. Hey all are not perfect and that is part of life.. hell I even have things wrong with me.

But again I am against this.....

People this is a military bill forum stop with the 911 stuff
 
i think mod should close this thread since there seems to be a consensus about the bill already

prevent this thread from turning into another 9/11 conspiracy thread lol
 
Back to that whole "well placed attacks would jeapordize our freedoms" discussion...

If we can rebuild New Orleans, we can rebuild whatever they attack. The right to 120v electricity isn't in the constitution nor is the right to drive an H2 Hummer back and forth to your kid's soccer practice because 'you can'.

The freedom of speech will not be lost even if a world power sent a few Nukes over to us. We'd bounce back like we always do in full force. If the time came where we needed to amass a huge army...we would. Right now people don't see a reason for all the soldiers being killed in Iraq. Its not our war, it never was. So it is to be expected that there are fewer volunteers.

If we put 1/4 of the money we spend on this war into renewable energy research and development, public transportation, and other methods of reducing our oil consumption...we could cut off our lifeline to the middle east and let them fight their own wars.
 
chuyler1 said:
Back to that whole "well placed attacks would jeapordize our freedoms" discussion...

If we can rebuild New Orleans, we can rebuild whatever they attack. The right to 120v electricity isn't in the constitution nor is the right to drive an H2 Hummer back and forth to your kid's soccer practice because 'you can'.

The freedom of speech will not be lost even if a world power sent a few Nukes over to us. We'd bounce back like we always do in full force. If the time came where we needed to amass a huge army...we would. Right now people don't see a reason for all the soldiers being killed in Iraq. Its not our war, it never was. So it is to be expected that there are fewer volunteers.

If we put 1/4 of the money we spend on this war into renewable energy research and development, public transportation, and other methods of reducing our oil consumption...we could cut off our lifeline to the middle east and let them fight their own wars.

I agree with you... this war is not ours. Those people have been fighting for longer than Armerica has been here... But one reason that this bill is coming up is clear.. we dont have enough to keep our military at full pace. memebrs and most of my friends have been over there 2-3 times in four years, nad have seen there friends die for a religious belief that a certain religion has. i dont beleive that anyone should die for anothers beliefs, but it is nature of this world. and if anyone thinks that this war is over oil.... than you are not tatally right or wrong... but those fighting us are fighting us for a belief that they have.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209859,00.html

If this link comes up it will show you how hard the military needs people.. If this happens that means that those members have gone over 2-3 times will now be there 4-5 maybe more...

Again I do not beleive that the bill should pass, but, there is a need for some to stop compalining and do something about it. Most know someone that has a family and they ave been over there 2-3 times.... why cant you take there place...?
 
and if those get pissed about what I say... jsut open your eyes and stop beleiving the media, and ask someone who fights...
 
Reading the bill and growing up in Germany, (i am DUAL CITIZEN since Birth) and knowing that Germany has this type of stuff where you serve the german army for a period of 2 years if you want to or not.

I am for this type of Bill. Everyone able and in their right mind(meaning if your not retarded) should serve in the military for a predetermined amount of time, one or two years. Right now everyone is against it because we are in time of war and it may look like we are going to be there alot longer. The Military is not War, In the Military you learn discipline and honor and love for your own country. During this time of war the Service have seen a record drop off in new recruits because everyone thinks they are going to be shipped out to war, and that may be the case. If I was able I would not hesitate to sign up for active duty and ship out to Iraq or Afgahnistan (or however you spell it)
I will defend my Country and I will fight for the Freedom for which it stands!
 
gimpo2 said:
Terrorism is the systematic use or threatened use of violence to intimidate a population or government and thereby effect political, religious, or ideological change. Acts of terrorism are not intended to merely victimize or eliminate those who are killed, injured, or taken hostage, but rather to intimidate and influence the societies to which they belong.

There is the definition of terrorism. Now the intended goal of terrorism to instill fear or 'terror' amongst the general population to influence them into doing one thing or another.

So in the past few years what entity has been trying to scare the American population into submission?

TerrorAlertChart.jpg

no s***! i agree, gimpo for president!
 
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