MS3@ Geneva 06.

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Cool it Chico...DO NOT flame up this thread. You've already made your point...Let's keep this discussion going smoothly.
 
RODSCALIP5 said:
More Pics and can you say 6-speed :D:


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While there's no denying the wagon's practicality... I'm with newf on this one. While this car isn't ugly by any stretch. there's nothing overlly special about it. (which may have been mazda's plan) Since the aggressively styled msp didn't sell well (for reaons that had nothingto do with it's styling btw) maybe their plan is to take the ms6 approach and keep things relatively conservative. if that's the case, I'm guessing I can't expect a spicy orange version of this car. (big sigh) viva a[size=-1]naranjado!!!


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Don't worry...This thread will not be locked...now let's get back to the MS3...I agree with you guys...It appears to be somewhat conservative like the MS6 in terms of styling. Almost in a "euro" way. That said...I like it! It helps to validate the MS3's performance potential. I feel something special about the MS3...It's based on a great car and it has character...I hope Mazda has a hit with this one...:D
 
Antoine said:
Cool it Chico...DO NOT flame up this thread. You've already made your point...Let's keep this discussion going smoothly.


Whoever said all genius minds were misunderstood wasn't kidding! Apparently those on the opposite end of the spectrum can be as well. Sorry dude, wasn't trying to "flame". Was merely contributing to a meaningful and, for the most part, intelligent debate on the virtues of awd and of course, my thoughts on the MS3. I don't think anyone's panties are in a bunch here... I mean, it's not like this is a VW or Honda forum! We mazda fans have thick skin!

but yeah.... point taken. game on!
 
Can someone with some photoshop skillz make this thing orange? highly doubt mazda would have the ballz to come out with it but.... if they did, awd or not, I'd have to buy it.
 
CHICO2003 said:
Can someone with some photoshop skillz make this thing orange? highly doubt mazda would have the ballz to come out with it but.... if they did, awd or not, I'd have to buy it.

I think they will come out with the Spicy Orange. It's the MS signature color, on Sport Compacts at least.
 
but seriously guys... in a way, wouldn't that sort've piss you off? I mean, granted... it would be in an effort to limit torque steer so I guess that's good... but, if I were to translate this approach into the msp (a car that suffers from TS as well) I'd sort've be pissed if I saw the psi needle only go to like 3 during 1st and 2nd... then jump to a whopping 7 lol afterwards..... give me all 7 damnit!!


....that's what she said
 
one thing i hope is that the car has properly wide wheels, not some weird 18x6.5 or some other such nonsense. even 18x7 is in narrow territory for that diameter. i'd rather see 17x8s myself.

Rogue Pro5 said:
but how will it know what gear you're in?

either a position sensor or by comparing the road speed and the engine speed. for each combo of the two, there's only 1 possible gear.
 
Newf said:
could it look any more bla?

And too bad I was right....No stereo. At least nothing good. That BOSE pos can kiss my ass.

Hopefully there's something stereo'wise special under the dash using the same screen as the nav? I can only wish

"bose pos"? before you talk s*** about the stock bose system on the 3, maybe you should listen to it! In general, I agree that bose is "s***"... many older mazdas (including the miatas) and cars from other companys which have bose systems were all s***... well IMO, that's not true on the 3.... it's pretty damn good for a stock system, covering all the frequency ranges decently... the system is NOT designed for blowning your socks off, but it's designed to be a balanced system

I *have* such a system, so I'm going to defend any bose s*** talking when it comes to the 3... but don't say that I think it's the best ******* system in the world... it's not, there's a lot more to be desired, but it came with the car "without a choice", and I don't regret having it... it's damn good for what it is and the price I got it.... and I'm one of those people who don't give two s**** about car audio, so don't even suggest that I "should've" gotten the car without it and "upgrade"... like I said, I couldn't even get the car without it


as for the MS3, it looks to me it DOES have the bose system... look on the door speaker grille in one of the photos, and you'll see the "bose" emblem

oh wait, I forgot you're in canada... bose is not even an option on the canadian 3s! that's too bad... sucks to the people who want a stock system but don't want to install thief magnets
 
CHICO2003 said:
but seriously guys... in a way, wouldn't that sort've piss you off? I mean, granted... it would be in an effort to limit torque steer so I guess that's good... but, if I were to translate this approach into the msp (a car that suffers from TS as well) I'd sort've be pissed if I saw the psi needle only go to like 3 during 1st and 2nd... then jump to a whopping 7 lol afterwards..... give me all 7 damnit!!


....that's what she said

The same engine in the MS6 runs at 15.6 psi, so I assume it wouldn't only give you 3 psi. You wouldn't even notice, the car would launch quickly and be on full boost once you're rolling.
 
TheMAN said:
"bose pos"? before you talk s*** about the stock bose system on the 3, maybe you should listen to it! In general, I agree that bose is "s***"... many older mazdas (including the miatas) and cars from other companys which have bose systems were all s***... well IMO, that's not true on the 3.... it's pretty damn good for a stock system, covering all the frequency ranges decently... the system is NOT designed for blowning your socks off, but it's designed to be a balanced system

I *have* such a system, so I'm going to defend any bose s*** talking when it comes to the 3... but don't say that I think it's the best ******* system in the world... it's not, there's a lot more to be desired, but it came with the car "without a choice", and I don't regret having it... it's damn good for what it is and the price I got it.... and I'm one of those people who don't give two s**** about car audio, so don't even suggest that I "should've" gotten the car without it and "upgrade"... like I said, I couldn't even get the car without it


as for the MS3, it looks to me it DOES have the bose system... look on the door speaker grille in one of the photos, and you'll see the "bose" emblem

oh wait, I forgot you're in canada... bose is not even an option on the canadian 3s! that's too bad... sucks to the people who want a stock system but don't want to install thief magnets

First off, in a car like the Mazda3 with a very nicely integrated stock system, I would not want to mod it more than maybe replacing the speakers. Every aftermarket head unit job I've seen in a Mazda3 has looked terrible. For that alone I'd want the Bose system.

Secondly, I'm no big Bose fan. My parents have a full Bose setup for our home theatre back home and it's really sub par for the extreme cost (and Bose is a non-profit). What I do like is the Bose systems I have heard in cars. My mom's 2003 Altima 2.5SL had the factory Bose and for 180 watts and no subwoofer it was stellar. They tune the system for the soundstage of the car it is going in so I think they know how to make a better sounding system than just tossing random aftermarket speakers in. In my mom's 2005 Altima 3.5SE (the 2003 4-cyl needed to go) the Bose system is even better. The head unit has basically the same button layout (even though the 05 has a welcome complete redesign of the interior) so I don't think it changed, but the amp in the trunk is bigger and IIRC puts out 20-40 more watts. If it was my car I wouldn't be compelled to install a subwoofer at all.

In conclusion Bose can sound great when they tune it for the environment it's being used in. For their home audio stuff, blech. I'm much happier with my Polk Audio setup in my college apartment.


Oh and BTW thanks RODSCALIP5 for posting those new pics. HOLY CRAP the interior is amazing. the seats, the 6-spd.. *drools*

If it was a Sedan I would be calling my mom every day telling her how much I loved her so that I could get the damn thing. As a hatch, I think it looks terrible. fat ugly slob of a car, but with such an amazing interior.

edit: thanks Roque Pro5 for the correction
 
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