Moly Oil From Mazda Factory?

[Buddywh2]

Seriously? you'd use a purpose-built wrench?

lots of ways to do it if you can't twist it off by hand... poke a screwdriver through it and use it as a lever...wrap some cord around it, twist tight around a wrench and twist... the darn things small enough I half way think I could get my water pump pliers wide enough open to do it.

Sure, a filter wrench is a clean and delicate way to do it but it's a one time thing to get that muscled on factory tightened filter off. From now on, you'll not twist more than 3/4 turn and it will be an easy hand removal... right??

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

The best deal I could find is from Med Center Mazda. I ordered three sets of oil change kit for $39.32 each including Mazda SkyActiv Technology oil filter, drain plug washer, and 5 quarts of Mazda 0W-20 Moly oil to avoid expensive shipping and 8.25% sales tax.

Med Center was cheaper than my dealer so I ordered 3 kits to get the free shipping.

http://www.mazdaparts.org/mazda-oil-filter-moly-oil.html

$39.32 for 5 quarts and filter.

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

Med Center was cheaper than my dealer so I ordered 3 kits to get the free shipping.

http://www.mazdaparts.org/mazda-oil-filter-moly-oil.html

$39.32 for 5 quarts and filter.

Should be here tomorrow and then another change on Friday... a few weeks early but a convenient time to change.

 

[mackworth]

So for people not using the OEM filter, what filter are you using? Anyone have any teardown of the OEM filter?

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

A few pics linked off of Bobistheoilguy site

http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/icepickjazz/media/Mazda Oil Filter/DSC_0340_zpsf2a970b1.jpg.html

 

[pdlpsher]

So if I take my CX-5 to a Mazda dealer for an oil change how do I know if they are putting in genuine 0W-20 Mazda moly oil and not something else? It seems like most folks are doing their own oil change. I don't like doing it myself. And I don't like fast lube chains doing oil changes either.

 

[mackworth]

So if I take my CX-5 to a Mazda dealer for an oil change how do I know if they are putting in genuine 0W-20 Mazda moly oil and not something else? It seems like most folks are doing their own oil change. I don't like doing it myself. And I don't like fast lube chains doing oil changes either.

You ask them.

 

[paris1]

You specify that oil and ask them to show you four empty bottles and leave the left over half of the fifth bottle in the "boot".

 

[erhayes]

From reading, I suspect that most dealers don't even stock the Special Mazda Oil with Moly. Ask them you'd like to see a quart of it. Unless I can see them working on my vehicle, I wouldn't even ask to that oil in an oil change. We had one Mazda dealer that used to have the vehicle bays out in back of the service writers. They wouldn't let me go back to talk with the mechanic so I requested the mechanic come talk with me. He did and told me what he did in enough detail to convince me. I will not however go to a dealership set up so the customer can't observe what is going on. I don't expect to be under the vehicle talking to the mechanic and disturbing him while he works but, I do insist on being able to see what is going on with my vehicle. Ed

 

[GAXIBM]

I had an Infiniti free change in 2003 and watched them take it across the street to a quick change place. Maybe the dealer owned that too?

 

[erhayes]

They charged the Infinity dealer $30 and you $75. )

 

[GAXIBM]

Ed you missed the free change part...

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

Just don't get caught spelling Infiniti "Infinity" on an Infiniti board I made that mistake one time.

 

[yrwei52]

So if I take my CX-5 to a Mazda dealer for an oil change how do I know if they are putting in genuine 0W-20 Mazda moly oil and not something else? It seems like most folks are doing their own oil change. I don't like doing it myself. And I don't like fast lube chains doing oil changes either.

You specify that oil and ask them to show you four empty bottles and leave the left over half of the fifth bottle in the "boot".

Yeah, I do believe telling dealer service to keep all empty Mazda moly oil bottles in your CX-5 after the oil change is an effective way to make sure your dealer is using the oil you'd requested with additional cost.

BTW, you need all 5 bottles of oil as even 5 quarts of oil won't bring up the oil level to "Full" mark on the dipstick. It's still about 2/5 ~ 1/4 short although the manual calls 4.8 US quarts with filter replacement on 2.5L.

 

[MikeM.]

BTW, you need all 5 bottles of oil as even 5 quarts of oil won't bring up the oil level to "Full" mark on the dipstick. It's still about 2/5 ~ 1/4 short although the manual calls 4.8 US quarts with filter replacement on 2.5L.

Of course it's not necessary to bring the oil all the way to the top line - that is a fetish left over from the days when you could expect the oil level to gradually drop between oil changes. If the 2.5L motor is as tight as my 2.0L, the level won't budge through the entire service interval and it can just be filled to mid-range.

This explains Mazda's 4.8 quart capacity spec. (they probably consider "full" half-way between the "low" and "high" marks).

 

[sunnyd]

Of course it's not necessary to bring the oil all the way to the top line - that is a fetish left over from the days when you could expect the oil level to gradually drop between oil changes. If the 2.5L motor is as tight as my 2.0L, the level won't budge through the entire service interval and it can just be filled to mid-range.

This explains Mazda's 4.8 quart capacity spec. (they probably consider "full" half-way between the "low" and "high" marks).

I agree that it's not necessary to be all the way to the high mark. In fact, I feel that it's good practice to be slightly below it and avoid the possibility of overfilling. I believe overfilling can increase the probability of leaks as the engine ages.

I haven't had my CX-5 long enough to find out yet, but I do hope the 2.5L is as tight as Mike's 2.0L.

 

[pdlpsher]

I just found out that my dealer provides free lifetime oil changes. The only thing I need to pay for is the oil filter at $12. When I asked the salesman if the synthetic oil is extra and he said 'no'. Too good to be true?

 

[paris1]

I just found out that my dealer provides free lifetime oil changes. The only thing I need to pay for is the oil filter at $12. When I asked the salesman if the synthetic oil is extra and he said 'no'. Too good to be true?

They have to use synthetic (per Mazda) to keep within warranty. Ask them if the Mazda super-moly oil is extra and see what he says. That's the more relevant issue! BTW, that $12 for the filter is just about twice what it's worth. There's no such thing as a free lunch (or a free oil change!).

 

[yrwei52]

I just found out that my dealer provides free lifetime oil changes. The only thing I need to pay for is the oil filter at $12. When I asked the salesman if the synthetic oil is extra and he said 'no'. Too good to be true?

You may end up like arunka007 just found out on the other thread, only the first oil change is free! Synthetic oil? My dealer uses a brand of "cheap synthetic oil" (the parts guy said this when he showed me the oil their service department uses) I've never heard of for "standard" oil change. I'd never use that oil in our CX-5.

 

[yrwei52]

They have to use synthetic (per Mazda) to keep within warranty. Ask them if the Mazda super-moly oil is extra and see what he says. That's the more relevant issue! BTW, that $12 for the filter is just about twice what it's worth. There's no such thing as a free lunch (or a free oil change!).

Apparently Mazda dealers can use any kind of oil they want. Mazda North American Operations have nothing to enforce the oils dealers can use. Someone here said before his Mazda dealer used conventional oil for his oil change. The same thing happened on VW dealers when VWoA specified 5W-40 synthetic oil for its 1.8T turbo but many VW dealers were using more common 5W-30 conventional oil hence caused sludge issue later and class action law suit.

There's no such thing as a free lunch for sure. That applies to everything!