Mazdaspeed 3 / 6 K04 Turbo Upgrade - 330WHP!!!
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Darth Vader
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Maybe I missed them the last time I was back there, I'm pretty sure I didn't see any. I looked closely but, I was looking from the top not, the bottom.
Threads wouldn't necessarily make it adjustable either, even if they are there. It might just be the attachment threads for the end, iow, you could loosen it a bit but not tighten it, which is what you'd want, I think.
Threads wouldn't necessarily make it adjustable either, even if they are there. It might just be the attachment threads for the end, iow, you could loosen it a bit but not tighten it, which is what you'd want, I think.
mazdaspeed32007
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well i can tell you what i know about the walls that you can run into when your modding goes past the ecu's limits - the biggest one is af ratio - when you push all the bolt ons on the car you can make it dip into the low 9's - eventually you will run into most refer to as "fuel cut" the ecu will basically shut everything off and it will feel like you hit a wall for a few sec. - it's enough to make you drop about 20mph if you are on the interstate - there's also boost cut which does the same thing - then there's the opposite side of the problem - too lean (which is the most dangerous of the 2) - if you did a way better turbo it's possible it would move so much air that you would be lean - if you're hitting like 13 or 14 at wot you are prob on the path to destruction -
so adjusting afr, boost control thru this vac line/bleeding system, throttle plate mapping, and timing adjustments are all stuff to look forward to with either the cobb ap or the sb - if you go cobb you will want to get auto tune race (free dl off the website)- and the best thing to do would to get on a dyno at a well known shop that knows the cobb software to make a great custom tune for you - they have tons of tunes for different part combos and they will make you one if you send them datalog info. but the best is somebody doing it live making adjustments on the fly -
as for using the ap/sb to get the factory boost control to work on an upgraded turbo - it works just fine - manual and independent electronic boost control are also other options as well..
so adjusting afr, boost control thru this vac line/bleeding system, throttle plate mapping, and timing adjustments are all stuff to look forward to with either the cobb ap or the sb - if you go cobb you will want to get auto tune race (free dl off the website)- and the best thing to do would to get on a dyno at a well known shop that knows the cobb software to make a great custom tune for you - they have tons of tunes for different part combos and they will make you one if you send them datalog info. but the best is somebody doing it live making adjustments on the fly -
as for using the ap/sb to get the factory boost control to work on an upgraded turbo - it works just fine - manual and independent electronic boost control are also other options as well..
Thanks for the details. my son in law is a tuner. Team Redline. He has some of the fastest and most reliable ummm (H's) i have seen or ridden in. so i would hand it off to him. He has explained alot to me. He uses the chrome? now and knows the in and outs. Of that particular brand, which are very easy to handle compared to ours. Damn maf's I had a greddy e manage in hand two years ago ready to start tuning, but have been waiting for folks to figure our cars out. I see that it will not work on my car. Been watching this tuning thing since before i bought mine in 3/07. If it can be done with the Cobb, to get control I will give it to him and let him have at it. It was not that long ago that we could only run base maps. But it seems the ecu is now finally accessible. Thanks for all the knowledge you have been sharing. I am starting to feel more secure that the Mazdaspeed 3 can be built up mechanically because the tuning tools are available and the ecu will not continue to fight. Is that a reasonable statement? again thanks sir
Peace loving hippie??? HAHAHAHA I don't live in eugene or portland man, gimme guns explosions and boobies!!! And i can thank that 317 to a great tune by surgeline. Too bad my turbo is leakin oil
bye bye 2nd turbocobb is just the first device that's allowed us to flash in changes on to the chips in the ecu - the cpe standback has allowed use to trick our ecu into doing what we want for a few years now - they started with the major custom tunes first and pretty much hold the record for biggest hp right now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fk2Wd2DziE
Well thanks i had to watch you tube for half an hour. But yes the other company i first noticed was CP-E. But i was not aware they had gotten that far. Very impressive. is there a build sheet for that car? By the way, may i pm you i have gotten way off thread and have some more questions? And creedns, i am sorry to hear about the oil. Hope she feels better real soon. peace , man..and boobies of course!
Is there a place i can view the intricate details of changes? I really am interested in this product from an engineering stand point. But i am in need of the factuals.Although i still look forward to posts that just say "pulls much harder, longer " or something to that effect!
SU / other / evil Forum has all the details from Bryan.
You can also go to his website www.bnrturbos.com to look at all his other stuff.
You can also go to his website www.bnrturbos.com to look at all his other stuff.
I was reading up a little and it appears that CP-e is controlling output voltages to injectors, timing and boost. Am i incorrect on that. I do not want to fool the inputs. No tricking?
08CWP_SoCal_MS3
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There's a video of a Black Mica MS3 putting down 433whp floating around on youtube right now... Not sure how legit it is or who tuned it.
While the learning curve is steeper - you really cannot beat changing the pcm itself... it is the right way to go - I've done piggy backs and the Cobb, tuning the Cobb is harder but the results are 1000000000000% better.
I am glad to hear that. What is it that is more difficult with the Cobb?
quote)There's a video of a Black Mica MS3 putting down 433whp floating around on youtube right now... Not sure how legit it is or who tuned it.
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quote)There's a video of a Black Mica MS3 putting down 433whp floating around on youtube right now... Not sure how legit it is or who tuned it.
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Is there some search words to save me some time?
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speed3shon has put down 440whp on a built motor with lower compression pistons, big turbo and nitrous tuned on an accessport with zero cut.
More nuanced... there are a lot of tables that interact; and figuring them out and knowing what to tune to get your results is a lot of R&D
