Mazda5 vs KIA Rondo comparisons and articles (merged)
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yes resale value is lower but this is a factor that is also steadily improving in kia. With each new model that comes out the resale value of kia increases because the reputation of their vehicles is increasing. If you go on autotrader and try to buy a newer pre-owned kia you will find that they are alot more expensive than they used to be. I don't think the rondo will have absolute crap resale. Also the rondo is in a car niche that is not heavily occupied in america, the small mpv market. Thus I think the resale won't be crap. It's similar with the small hatchback v.s. compact sedans, in the kia rio the sedan has crappy resale but the rio cinco hatchback does not because there is greater deamand for them because there are not many cars in that niche.
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I know the feeling, got 3 girls and my wallet is always empty, and your right with the siding door with the baby it will be so easy in and out. Back to the rio rondo if it was me i would get a used one with low miles so the resell value won't be so bad or try to rent one and see if its the one you want to buy. Good luck zoomzoom
I currently own an 05 Hyundai Elantra and previously owned an 02 Elantra. In terms of reliability, that is not an issue, in my opinion. They are as reliable as any Japanese make and definitely more reliable than any domestic or european make. After Hyundai took over Kia, I'm sure that Kia's reliability has benefited.
In terms of resale value, there is no argument about it, Korean cars have crappy resale values. The thing that surprised me though was how crappy my 01 Mazda MPV held up in terms of resale value also. (Traded my MPV for a 5).
With all that being said, I'd still go for the 5. I think the 5 looks better and has the advantage of having sliding doors.
In terms of resale value, there is no argument about it, Korean cars have crappy resale values. The thing that surprised me though was how crappy my 01 Mazda MPV held up in terms of resale value also. (Traded my MPV for a 5).
With all that being said, I'd still go for the 5. I think the 5 looks better and has the advantage of having sliding doors.
Most of the stuff on that site I saw was 6+ years ago. There is a site like that for just about every car. Lemons exist and the people who end up with them usually make sure the whole world knows about it. I'd much rather trust the likes of Consumer Reports on vehicle reliability than a bunch of people who posted on a site 6 years ago. But anyway...Lt. Dan said:
When buying a car you need to think you yourself "How long do I plan to own this?" and "at what point can I afford to fix things if they go wrong?". If you plan on starting a large family and feel you may grow out of your next car...don't invest in something that will last you 10+ years. However, if you are the type of person who plans ahead and understands that you want to get the most out of your car, it may be worth the extra money to get something with a little better quality that will last you that long.
Another thing to consider is safety (especially with family vehicles). Check to see if both cars you are considering score well on crash tests, offer equivalent airbag protection and other safety features and use that in your decision making process.
I see Kia, Suzuki, and Hyundai as throw-away car companies. Use them, rank up the miles, and when the warranty is up, get rid of them before they cost you more than they are worth. Just because I consider them throw-away cars doesn't mean they aren't a good value though. You can save lots of money and they should last you 4-5 years with little to no problems that result in out-of-pocket costs. You won't get as much back on the resale...but you didn't pay that much to begin with so who cares. When you look at the price difference between some cars, you could almost buy a new car twice as often, for example every 4 years instead of every 8 years.
There have been a lot of good responses on this thread and I don't have much to add. Before we got the Mz5 we didn't realize how nice sliding doors are. For our use where someone is in the rear virtually every time the car goes anyplace, sliding doors are the way to go. Also there is no manual transmission option with the Rondo. On the other hand, the Rondo has dynamic stability control (big safety plus IMO) and can seat seven. I can see how for some people the Rondo is going to be the better overall choice, but not for me or my wife. I see it competing more with the PT Cruiser rather than the Mazda5 except in terms of seating capacity.
Finally, I don't think it is quite accurate to lump Kia and Hyundai together as far as quality goes. They now have the same ownership but are not the same company. They're just starting to share factory space but as far as I know they still have separate design teams, production lines, quality control, etc.
Jon
Finally, I don't think it is quite accurate to lump Kia and Hyundai together as far as quality goes. They now have the same ownership but are not the same company. They're just starting to share factory space but as far as I know they still have separate design teams, production lines, quality control, etc.
Jon
D-rock240 said:
a reskinned, Korean-built version of the 1990-1994 Mazda Protege
and guess who designed the a/c system? Just like the pre-96 hyundais they did nothing other than change the body up some. When people call a car a piece of crap normally I think about its ability to run, its drivetrain. That was totally mazda in those kia's everyone was busting on.
was98strat said:
also, what are you talking about? Link? The last gen. didn't do so hot but the new vans are ok.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=591
that doesn't look that bad to me. All green from them is pretty good. Also they got the top safty pick for the moment
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/default.aspx
compare to this
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=19
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I think there is a general trend that when a cheap foreign car company comes over to the states people automatically start thinking they're crap until they survive the tough US market for a while and change consumer perceptions. I read alot about how americans thought japanese cars were crap when they first came here and now when people think japanese cars they think reliability.
Most reliable (Best score first) Toyota FJ Cruiser* (pictured)
Honda Element
2006 Honda CR-V
Toyota Rav4*
2006 Mitsubishi Outlander*
Subaru Forester
Least reliable Kia Sportage
2007 models unless otherwise noted.
Honda Element
2006 Honda CR-V
Toyota Rav4*
2006 Mitsubishi Outlander*
Subaru Forester
Least reliable Kia Sportage
2007 models unless otherwise noted.
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I was stationed in korea for 5 years, and for fact they use LPG for fuel. One big tank in the trunk and when you get rear ended kiss your butt good bye. Some cars that they have over there are worth buying but they won't sell in the NA market. I drove a Fairlady Z in seoul and in the DMZ that i had shipped from japan, had to sell it before i got back to the states. But it's up to the buyer on the Rondo or the Mazda5. zoomzoom
Yes alot of cars in korea run on LPG. Most LPG cars are commercial vehicles such as taxis over there. My uncle has a kia credos LPG car I dunno how dangerous they are in rear end accidents I saw the propane tank in the trunk but the one he had seems pretty protected, not sure how safe they are. I know alot of the CT state govt vehicles and all CT taxis are either honda civic HX (LPG) or hybrid cars also so I'm guessing they won't ford pinto immediately on impact. lol.
Anyways the guy that made this thread seemed to like the rondo and mz5. He drove both i'm just curious to see what he gets and how it runs.
Anyways the guy that made this thread seemed to like the rondo and mz5. He drove both i'm just curious to see what he gets and how it runs.
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Wytchdctr said:
Reliabilty in many cases is more a result of execution rather than design. Having a consistent assembly line where everyone does their job right is far more difficult to execute than simply designing an engine that runs. I don't know enough about the cars in question but I'm more inclined to believe that Kia had some assembly issues to iron out or made minor changes to Mazda's design before building their cars. If you are saying the Mazdas had the same issues as Kia prior to selling the design then I would obviously say the designer (Mazda) would be at fault. However, Mazda can't get full blame because the design afterall, was something they tossed and improved upon with newer models.
BTW, has anyone seen the History Channel "Modern Marvels" episode on the Assembly Line? It was on last night. Pretty neat.
Interesting note, http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/112_0701_2007_coty_testing/2007_kia_rondo.html
I know hyundai autos are not the fastest (normally about 1 sec slower than there 5spd counterparts) but, wow. The v6 rondo is slower than the 5 (with the v6 they are freakin heavy, 4cyl is about the same as the 5). Glad I didn't wait for the hyundai group on this one... with this info Mazda5 FTW, lol.
I know hyundai autos are not the fastest (normally about 1 sec slower than there 5spd counterparts) but, wow. The v6 rondo is slower than the 5 (with the v6 they are freakin heavy, 4cyl is about the same as the 5). Glad I didn't wait for the hyundai group on this one... with this info Mazda5 FTW, lol.
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