Kurt Cobain

I was 15 when he committed suicide. People in the school were shocked, my friend cried so much.
It's tough to understand the feelings of a generation without living it. I lived grunge, the Seattle scene WAS me. I felt jaded, neglected, unloved, left out, cynical towards, not the "man", but others around me that didn't seem to care of be affected by how I was.

He wasn't the "it" of the generation, there were other bands who had the same message (Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead-pablo honey, others I'm forgetting...). But, he was the one from these that most people my age would probably relate to the most.

I'm sorry, Billy Corgan was much more artistic in what he did, but his message wasn't as charismatic or strong.

You can call him whatever you want...
Put yourself in his position and see how well you can handle your newly found "inflated ego" handed to you by mtv wrapped by the legs of a selfish psycho nymphomaniac (yeah, you know who I'm talking about).
 
servoeyes said:
I have to disagree with PJ playing a larger role...Nirvana were definitely the ground breakers. PJ were closer to rock, and more listenable than either Nirvana or old Soundgarden. But Nirvana and SG were much better bands...I mean, seriously...PJ had one amazing album and then everything went downhill.

What bugs me about Kurt was that he killed himself. He had so much to live for and he couldn't see that thanks to the drugs and everything else. It's too bad...he was talented, even though I didn't like a lot of their stuff.

what irks me more than Kurt killing himself, were all the people that acted like he was the messiah and the best thing since sliced bread. And if you asked them about mother love bone or even soundgarden they'd be like...psssh...they sucked. Kurt was Gawd!

Yes, the drugs did cloud his vision to all the things he had going for him. Though I'm sure that ***** cortney didn't help. Besides his succes in music, he may have had a very hard life, it's hard to make a call from the outside in, we see all of his success, whereas he prolly only saw his failures and misfortune.
 
servoeyes said:
I have to disagree with PJ playing a larger role...Nirvana were definitely the ground breakers. PJ were closer to rock, and more listenable than either Nirvana or old Soundgarden. But Nirvana and SG were much better bands...I mean, seriously...PJ had one amazing album and then everything went downhill.

What bugs me about Kurt was that he killed himself. He had so much to live for and he couldn't see that thanks to the drugs and everything else. It's too bad...he was talented, even though I didn't like a lot of their stuff.

what irks me more than Kurt killing himself, were all the people that acted like he was the messiah and the best thing since sliced bread. And if you asked them about mother love bone or even soundgarden they'd be like...psssh...they sucked. Kurt was Gawd!
s***, how could I forget Soundgarden!!!!!!??? Oh, they rocked, and YES, PJ was great, for one album, the first one.
Outshined, Rusty Cage... awesome songs

I can't expect anyone who was 10 when Kurt died to understand what he meant. That means that you were 6 when they were just coming out, that's just not old enough.
 
cbcbd said:
s***, how could I forget Soundgarden!!!!!!??? Oh, they rocked, and YES, PJ was great, for one album, the first one.
Outshined, Rusty Cage... awesome songs

I can't expect anyone who was 10 when Kurt died to understand what he meant. That means that you were 6 when they were just coming out, that's just not old enough.


You have no idea man, I still listened to them like everyday, I thought they where awesome. My dad and Unlce got me into them, and since then I have always listened to Nirvana, sure, I was young, and couldn't fully appreciate them, but as I've grown older, I have learned just how much Nirvana was, and how much they meant to the entire music community. Trust me, I do realize just how special the whole era was.
 
cbcbd said:
s***, how could I forget Soundgarden!!!!!!??? Oh, they rocked, and YES, PJ was great, for one album, the first one.
Outshined, Rusty Cage... awesome songs

I can't expect anyone who was 10 when Kurt died to understand what he meant. That means that you were 6 when they were just coming out, that's just not old enough.
Buddy...I was 13 at the time. That music influenced all my taste today. I still think 10 is one of the greatest albums of all time...but Nirvana just never spoke to me in the same way as soundgarden did. I finally got to see Chris Cornell perform live with audioslave last year...lemme tell you. Quite possibly the best voice in rock and roll...amazing.

As for rock being dead...listen to Injected, Lacuna Coil, The Darkness, Sevendust, Lost Prophets, and Finch. That's a great range of rock bands that not a lot of people have heard of, and they all kick ass in their own special way. Rock is out there...don't let rolling stone and spin let you believe that all that's left is the freakin' strokes and jet.
 
Kurt Cobain was a b**** that couldnt even live his own life. The motherfucking pussy took a shotgun to his own head. What a ******* assclown. Not to mention, his wife looks like a cracked ex porn star. Stupid b****.

I hope they live in hell.


OHHHHHHH, MY STOMACH HURTS!!! GIVE ME A SHOTGUN!!!
 
mazdaspeedpower said:
You have no idea man, I still listened to them like everyday, I thought they where awesome. My dad and Unlce got me into them, and since then I have always listened to Nirvana, sure, I was young, and couldn't fully appreciate them, but as I've grown older, I have learned just how much Nirvana was, and how much they meant to the entire music community. Trust me, I do realize just how special the whole era was.
heh heh, I was about to edit my thread when I said that and the site crapped out :P

I was going to correct what I said, because I do realize that it is more than age, but I just think most people who identified with the music were in late middle school, high school, or college at the time - big angst years. I know it speaks to many different people - I'm just saying that most of the parents of kids my age at the time weren't listening to Nirvana. Your dad and Uncle are cool to like them and to pass it on to you :D
 
servoeyes said:
Quite possibly the best voice in rock and roll...amazing.
He IS the most amazing rock and roll voice. I shudder when I think of his vocal talent, even though it belonged in Soundgarden, but it's doing ok in Audioslave.
 
Sirius radio owns for catching some of the new rock tunes. That's where I first heard Finch (headbang)
 
Nirvana didnt suck. they were just highly overrated. right place at the right time. all the other bands in the whole grunge sounds were just as good if not better (which i never got grunge anyways, hey look flannel and ripped jeans... ya) but i have absolutly NO respect for the man for taking his own life. He obvisouly did not love his daughter as much as he likes people to think he did. Or he would never had done that to her. but this is just my opinion. and remember i didnt say nirvana sucked, i just think they were overrated.
 
Kurt was killed by Courtney. They were on the verge of getting a divorce and she would have gotten nothing. They had a pre-nup. In the beginning she thought that she would be more famous than he was and she was jealous that it had not happened. She would still be a nobody if Kurt was still alive. She has been under investigation for it since he died, but noone wanted to challenge her at that time. There is a book coming out that tells all the stuff you dont see on tv.
 
honestly, no matter what you think of kurt, you have to admire him. he took a form of music that had been unknown and delivered to the public in such a way, that it literally swept the nation. while there are other bands and musicians that deserve as much credit, it was nirvana, not them, who opened the door for alternative music. if not for them, we may still be listening to hair metal while alternative rock might still be unknown to the vast majority of the population. if not for nirvana, imagine what may be in your cd player now.........

RIP kurt (rockon)

cournty love, you suck
 
a little respect, please

SomaMP3 said:
Kurt Cobain is a no talent ass clown who took all the credit for creating a rock revolution just because he killed himself. He even said himself that he stole all his ideas from the Pixies. Just because the music industry tells you he's an icon doesn't mean you should worship him. If you want someone from that era to look up to, then it should be Billy Corgan. He's gotten tonnes of slack from the industry because he's always being creative. Its bulls***. All Nirvana songs sound the same. Sorry but i really hate the guy. I hate it when rock stars kill themselves because of their inflated egos(blah) Thats just my two cents
I just wanted to respond to your commentary. I know nothing about cars and definitely don't care, but a friend of mine emailed me this page because of the Nirvana discussion.I think you are misguided in thinking that Kurt dubbed himself the creator of a rock revolution. It was that very mainstream bulls*** that oppressed his love for creative expression.He could not stand that the people who were making fun of him in high school were going to be jamming to tunes that they could not understand. It was humiliating to him. And welcome to the world of music, where all musicians build on their past musical influences.The Pixies being one for Kurt Cobain, however not all.The music industry tells us Brtiney Spears is an icon, but we don't buy that. At least not 10 years later we won't be. I think Kurt's talent and innovation with using simple riffs and lyrics that were so layered with multiple meanings, irony, and humor speak for themselves. Media creation or not.And guess what. We don't have to have only one musician to appreciate in a diverse world. Billy Corgan is a talent also. But he wasn't no Kurt Cobain, hate to break it to you.And the last thing that someone with an inflated ego does is kill themselves. I imagine that it would be something closer to the opposite situation. But thanks for your opinion. And remember, respect for the dead is a nice thing to have, regardless of whether or not you personally thought they were the embodiment of an entire generation.It is the anniversary of his death. RIP KC Sincerely, Melissa Lavin Melissa.Lavin@att.net
 
he was so cool, makes me want to shoot myself in the face. damn what a loser. didn't care enough about his daughter to not do that. **** him
 
Wow, 10 years already. Hard to believe. I remember how shocked I was to hear the news. It still saddens me to this day. He is so gifted and reached so many people when he was alive. They have to go on as one of the best bands ever (band2)
 
not to upset anyone, because I understand that his music touched you in some way, but to make him out to be this great man, or to deify him is kind of discusting to me. taking your own life is about the most cowardly thing I can think of, and 10X more so when you have a family that truely needs you.

that being said, I did like their music, and I am sad that he is gone, but if he was half the man people make him out to be he would NEVER of killed himself.
 
cbcbd said:
I was 15 when he committed suicide. People in the school were shocked, my friend cried so much.
It's tough to understand the feelings of a generation without living it. I lived grunge, the Seattle scene WAS me. I felt jaded, neglected, unloved, left out, cynical towards, not the "man", but others around me that didn't seem to care of be affected by how I was.

He wasn't the "it" of the generation, there were other bands who had the same message (Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead-pablo honey, others I'm forgetting...). But, he was the one from these that most people my age would probably relate to the most.

I'm sorry, Billy Corgan was much more artistic in what he did, but his message wasn't as charismatic or strong.

You can call him whatever you want...
Put yourself in his position and see how well you can handle your newly found "inflated ego" handed to you by mtv wrapped by the legs of a selfish psycho nymphomaniac (yeah, you know who I'm talking about).
why do people cry when idiot celebrities and rock stars take their life or die of s*** like coke overdoses? who gives a ****? hes dead, his music was *OK*, and they make a big deal because he killed himself. just proves to me how stupid he was...
 

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