Hydrolock

[robooccms6]

So I hydro locked my ms6 this week in a nice amount of standing water on the GSP @ about 80
(hah)... Diverter valve on the cai too. ... To make a long story short has anyone had there engine out yet? If so how big of a job was rippin it down to the block.. Any special tools? star drives? etc.... I took the plugs out and cranked it to clear out the water & changed the oil. But unfortunately I bent something in the engine... She runs but i have a slight tap... I can feel it in the clutch if its depressed about 1/8" more then i can hear it.. I'm thinking bent valve, rod, cracked head, scored cam, turned bearing.. I'm gonna run a compression test tomorrow and try to narrow down a cylinder. No smoke ... ANY INPUT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED

 

[chriscecc914]

So I hydro locked my ms6 this week in a nice amount of standing water on the GSP @ about 80
(hah)... Diverter valve on the cai too. ... To make a long story short has anyone had there engine out yet? If so how big of a job was rippin it down to the block.. Any special tools? star drives? etc.... I took the plugs out and cranked it to clear out the water & changed the oil. But unfortunately I bent something in the engine... She runs but i have a slight tap... I can feel it in the clutch if its depressed about 1/8" more then i can hear it.. I'm thinking bent valve, rod, cracked head, scored cam, turned bearing.. I'm gonna run a compression test tomorrow and try to narrow down a cylinder. No smoke ... ANY INPUT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED

taking out this motor and pulling everything apart is no cake walk. i didnt take it out personally, but the guys who did told me it took alot of extra hours then taking apart the average 4 cyl.

 

[robooccms6]

thanks for the input

where did you have your engine done and built up at?

 

[Powerslave]

dude do what chris did and get the protege garage racing block!! ... also sorry to here of your misfortion

 

[rodney]

damn that sucks to hear man, thats exactyly why i modified my injen cai to short ram because i just don trust cai

 

[robooccms6]

I already have an email in with p.garage.. waiting to hear back.. but i need to find a shop that can do the swap b/c this guy is good with simple stuff.. not mzr engines
I have the whole month of january off so ill rent a uhaul and tow her up to 400 miles from jersey if i need to ... any recommendations?

 

[vindication]

how the hell do you hydrolock on a FI car? you sure you hydrolocked?

 

[robooccms6]

No but I am sure that I had to change the engine oil out 2x before all the water was out... I most def have a knock.. Not a big one but big enough. I won't know for sure till I have it taken apart... But at the same time I want to go forged components even if it breaks the bank

 

[SuperStretch18]

how the hell do you hydrolock on a FI car? you sure you hydrolocked?

Especially going 80 mph! The puddle would have had to have been 6-8" deep or more!

 

[vindication]

But at the same time I want to go forged components even if it breaks the bank

well this is a good excuse as any

 

[Igve2shtz]

Where on the GSP were you so I know where to avoid? Also, where in Jersey are you from?

I thought I hydrolocked 2 months back near Philly .. was driving at 60 mph when I hit a big standing puddle of water after a freak thunderstorm. The only thing that saved me was that I saw it coming and just prayed, and my foot was off the gas, so its not like I was at WOT or anything. Car stalled in the middle of the lane, and I had to use the starter motor to get me to the side of the road. I have to say, that was the most nerve-racking experience of my life.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I just put my stock intake back on Saturday fearing this same misfortune.

 

[zigger]

by pass valve

Aem makes one for this reason. I have it no problems at all

 

[robooccms6]

I am from exit 105. It happened northbound around 83 or so. I would put it thru comp insurance but then I WILL be uninsured come march. 2 points on my license and it was damn near impossible to get motorcycle insurance. If and when I buy a forged engine from protege garage does anyone in the tri state area know of any installers... IDA automotive is the best but i felt they were a little out of my pricerange When I had my car dynotuned, Bob had to pull a ford gt off for my car ... So here I am wandering the shop while he was hookin up my a/f.. Lambo(new engine and suspension) Land speed title holder ford~lightning.. etc..

 

[Igve2shtz]

Aem makes one for this reason. I have it no problems at all

Bypass valve? On a turbocharged vehicle? Taken from their website: "The AEM Air Bypass Valve is C.A.R.B. exempt on AEM Cold Air induction systems only and is NOT for use on forced induction vehicles"

(Link: http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=20)

I had one on a previous Honda (back when I was young and foolish, and Id rather not talk about it), and it worked damn good. Drove through some puddles about 12"-15" deep with an AEM cold air intake. But, to my understanding, the basic principle of the thing would make it not work correctly on a force induced vehicle.

 

[redspeed]

how the hell do you hydrolock on a FI car? you sure you hydrolocked?

What FI has to do with hydrolock?
The engine sucked some water, water won't compress= bent internals. FI don't have anything to do with this problem.

 

[kenpo1441]

Why don't you just put it back to stock and take it to the dealer?

 

[rodney]

What FI has to do with hydrolock?
The engine sucked some water, water won't compress= bent internals. FI don't have anything to do with this problem.

yea why the hell would FI have anything to do with hydrolocking your motor, i agree you can hydrock lock any motor no matter what type of power adder you have on your motor

 

[Raynman]

Are you sure it's hydrolocked?

It might just be the MAF shorted out by the water. Even if you did suck up water, I'd think the turbo would get hit first. Then there's all that piping and the intercooler that the water has to travel through. I'm not saying that hydrolocking an FI car is impossible. I'm just stating other scenarios.

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

Insurance normally covers hydrolocked engines...

and as someone already stated, CAI diverter valves are not made for FI cars..

 

[vindication]

What FI has to do with hydrolock?
The engine sucked some water, water won't compress= bent internals. FI don't have anything to do with this problem.

Think about the course the water has to travel. It has to pass through many things including the key part, the intercooler. I'm not saying it's impossible but damn near almost. Unless he was standing in the puddle revving the engine for a while.