GI: MBC with creep protection and spool up control

[70]

i also ordered components to make two more spool controls so that I can finish that testing and get those out as well. Those shouldn't be far behind...

then I also have an fuel cut eliminator/MAF signal conditioner that the first proto is out and will be tested shortly and will soon be available... then I have an O2 thing in the works that will let you adjust fuel mixture a little bit.. on stock vehicles and then a possible adjustable MAF modifier that will give you some fuel adjustment capability and then after that I have some brake cooling ducts that I'll be working on... and a few other things....

Nice!

But, get the first things done right first. Then move on from there.

Let me know when you have it all together.

 

[TurfBurn]

It's definitely a linear thing... that's why the spool control isn't released yet... I'm making sure the MBC is perfect and people are happy... then getting the spool control right... then the next thing... We aren't out to make money (and have a long way to go to get to black again)... just to try to support building new products for everyone.. as RandD is expensive as hell!

 

[igdrasil]

Do you know you may do that with the coolant sensor? you could use a voltimeter to adjust fuel too.

Whats the idea behing the O2 sensor modifier? for N/A??

 

[TurfBurn]

the coolant temps don't effect the fuel ratios quite as much, but that would work as well for sure!

EDIT: Working with the guys at microtech I was told that coolant temps should only modify my LT8 maps by about 2% or so... apparently the ECU on the stock mazda's does a fair bit more than that!

The idea behind the O2 modifier is multi-purpose... I can make it work a little "odd" to fix CEL's that people get for missing catalytics and so forth... I can also make it so that it is triggered by a 1 bar MAP sensor so that it only comes on during boost. Then at that point it would fiddle with the signal enough to pull fuel ratios down on cars that have an NA ECU. I don't know how much ability it will have to pull down fuel ratios yet. I'm assuming I'll get at least 1 pt... so you'd go from around 14.7 to 13.7 which still sucks... but is just that much more fuel... I'm hoping to get about 2.5 points... then it would be around 12.2 which would be good! All without throwing a CEL hopefully.

I guess one of the big points/benefits for it will be to try and eliminate some of that "learning" that the computer does that leans out people's mixtures in certain areas. It'll do at least a few things for sure. How valuable it will be will be determined over time and how many things it is actually capable of. It'll be pretty cheap/affordable most likely, so it won't matter too much one way or another!

 

[TurfBurn]

Looks like we'll be set to go to take orders on 8/12/04. If you are interested email me at sales@nsnmotorsports.com and I'll get back to you from there with more information as to what you need to do and shipping and so forth! You can also check out the website at www.nsnmotorsports.com for details as well!

The wastegate controllers are not completely ready to go yet, still doing some final testing. But we hope to have those officially up to par in the next 1-2 weeks!

Thanks much guys!

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com

 

[TurfBurn]

First batch of orders went out last week. Everyone should have tracking numbers and the like as well already!

SMP3000 got his MBC up and running and so far it has worked well for him. I don't expect anything less from any of the other MBC's of course!

If you haven't gotten one yet and are interested, just let me know and I can build and ship MBC's in pretty short turnaround times at this point. We'll be posting more pictures of the finalized kit soon as well.

Thanks all!

Steve

sales@nsnmotorsports.com

 

[Glowmunkey]

Finish the wastegate controllers, I want at least one.

 

[TurfBurn]

We are working hard on the controllers... put in like 3 hours of testing on Saturday. Just trying to sort out the performance and get them to behave the way we want them to. Hopefully soon!

 

[Glowmunkey]

We are working hard on the controllers... put in like 3 hours of testing on Saturday. Just trying to sort out the performance and get them to behave the way we want them to. Hopefully soon!

Good, glad to hear. Just trying to keep on you about it, all these interest threads get my hopes up and never resurface. Keep making stuff, I'll keep buying till I sell the car!

 

[TurfBurn]

Don't worry We bust ass trying to get stuff done... I won't quit making new things until I'm 100% out of ideas, which should be a long ass time! But we work through them piece by piece. With the MBC squared away and ready, as well as the creep eliminator, we are focusing on the wastegate controller. I think I have it figured out.. so this next round of tests will verify that or not and then we'll be all set!

 

[dominoy2k1]

i want that controller.

 

[Kooldino]

Wonder if the spool up device will help the lag I've got on my T3.

I'm also interested in something that PROPERLY tricks the secondary O2 sensor. Something that allows it to cycle voltage so it will come up clean on a motor vehicle inspection scan.

 

[TurfBurn]

Wonder if the spool up device will help the lag I've got on my T3.

I'm also interested in something that PROPERLY tricks the secondary O2 sensor. Something that allows it to cycle voltage so it will come up clean on a motor vehicle inspection scan.

Dana, you'd be a great beta tester once I get past my "alpha" stage on these things. I'd be curious to see how much of an improvement you'd notice. Do you have an EBC or MBC or not at this point?

That's what we are trying to do with the secondary O2 modifier and the primary o2 modifier. They will bias the voltage rather modify it. So the sensor will still cycle and so forth. I'm going to use an oscilliscope and record the waveforms so I know what I'm working with and then design around that to get where we need to be!

 

[Glowmunkey]

Wonder if the spool up device will help the lag I've got on my T3.

I'm also interested in something that PROPERLY tricks the secondary O2 sensor. Something that allows it to cycle voltage so it will come up clean on a motor vehicle inspection scan.

What kind of scan? I know it tricks the OBD2 scanner, doesn't throw a code. Nothing will trick exhaust gas analysis...


Just got my MBC, works great, no spikes!

 

[TurfBurn]

Quick update for you guys.... I'm sending out one of the prototype wastegate controllers this week to have it tested on another car. Our testing shows this version seems to work pretty good, so I want to verify it on someone elses car. I'll let you know what I find out when I hear back!

Thanks,

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com

 

[Glowmunkey]

Good progress, keep it up. I like parts, gimme more excuses to spend money.

 

[70]

Quick update for you guys.... I'm sending out one of the prototype wastegate controllers this week to have it tested on another car. Our testing shows this version seems to work pretty good, so I want to verify it on someone elses car. I'll let you know what I find out when I hear back!

Thanks,

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com

Cool, I was just about to send an email asking that very question.

Cool dealio!

 

[smp3000]

Good progress, keep it up. I like parts, gimme more excuses to spend money.

Yes, and very good parts they are indeed

 

[70]

Yes, and very good parts they are indeed

Good good good...I am waiting for the spool control to be ready.

Then, I'll be ready to buy it, and the boost control and the thermostat housing block.

Then my plans will move along. I hope.

 

[TurfBurn]

Some final testing on the spool controller has been getting done this last week. Results sounded good so far. Spool up time was improved, and no other issues were encountered. I'd like to ship one or two this coming week to interested parties and see how they fare using the part as well. Then assuming that goes smoothly it'll be open season on the spool controllers. Sorry it has taken so long to get to this point and I greatly appreciate all your patience!

Thanks,

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com