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oh ya, i don't think ANYONE was arguing against that.
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oh ya, i don't think ANYONE was arguing against that.
Just had to but in again. In some cases, you (or at least your insurance company through you) are liable for accidents your kids get into when they take your car unless you are willing to press criminal charged for theft against them. You don't have to directly give em the keys or tell them they can use the car to have legally given permission.
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I will probably end up in TX or CO after school, but anything could happen.
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I think these arguments are going to drag on and on and are kind of useless. To much of this going back and forth is based on assumptions. No one here knows all the facts. This kid came from a family that obviously had money. Maybe his parents worked all the time and were rarely home so he would just take his parents cars without there knowledge any time he felt like it. I grew up with plenty of kids like that.......from taking (pretty much stealing) the keys to a grand am, h1 hummer, or porsche.
A lot of good points have been made here and there but none of us know what really happened. We just know the end results of some bad decisions. For the most part those under 20 do tend to make more mistakes (with driving) but there are definitely exceptions. I was a 16 year old freshman in college and since then I've been threw 6 cars. 7 years later I still have a perfect driving record. I do believe that the parents could have taken more steps to insure there child's safety but as it was said before, theres no reason to believe they didn't think their son was responsible at 18. I can't really say that I would blame the parents even if they gave him the keys.....not at 18 years old. If he was a minor I would agree that they were partially to blame. By the time I was 18 I was making some pretty tough decisions. Not driving like a jackass was pretty self explanatory to me. I Know plenty of adults who are horrible drivers.
A lot of good points have been made here and there but none of us know what really happened. We just know the end results of some bad decisions. For the most part those under 20 do tend to make more mistakes (with driving) but there are definitely exceptions. I was a 16 year old freshman in college and since then I've been threw 6 cars. 7 years later I still have a perfect driving record. I do believe that the parents could have taken more steps to insure there child's safety but as it was said before, theres no reason to believe they didn't think their son was responsible at 18. I can't really say that I would blame the parents even if they gave him the keys.....not at 18 years old. If he was a minor I would agree that they were partially to blame. By the time I was 18 I was making some pretty tough decisions. Not driving like a jackass was pretty self explanatory to me. I Know plenty of adults who are horrible drivers.
He was tresspassing on a private airstrip. If an airplane would have been coming there there could have been more deaths.
People won't unanimously agree on a point in most matters, including people making stupid decisions that cause their own death and/or that of others. Different view points.
I believe the driver is at fault completely. He made a poor decision and should know the consequences. Junior High physics teaches us about velocity and matter as well as their potential. He wanted to be a "big boy" and have some fun, show off or whatever while ignoring or dismissing potential consequences. In the process he killed other people as well. Heck, stories like this are in the news constantly.
Parents should not be held responsible for an 18 yr olds decision making skills. If they screwed up in raising him and not teaching him proper responsibility, judgement et al, it is still an adults place to make needed changes. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, the kid broke the law, the parents did not. It is not illegal to over indulge ones children or teach them that money buys cool stuff and happiness or that all the shallow kids will think your cool if you act like you are the center of everyones universe.
Ignorance of responsibility and good judgement are no excuse either. If the parents knew their son was a moron and would speed around like a ***** ape then perhaps they should bear some legal consequence, otherwise they just get the emotional guilt.
In the end the parents get to live with the repercussions of this tragedy and hopefuly learn from it.
I feel bad for the families, driver and his victims but at the same time F' that stupid idiot. I'm sorry he can't stand trial for murder.
This reminds me of the girl that took daddies Porsche, clipped a car at well over the speed limit and slammed into a toll booth, ripping her head off in the process. She was under age though. I saved the pics and showed my daughter the chunks of scalp hanging from the top of the car to remind her why we drive responsibly.
I believe the driver is at fault completely. He made a poor decision and should know the consequences. Junior High physics teaches us about velocity and matter as well as their potential. He wanted to be a "big boy" and have some fun, show off or whatever while ignoring or dismissing potential consequences. In the process he killed other people as well. Heck, stories like this are in the news constantly.
Parents should not be held responsible for an 18 yr olds decision making skills. If they screwed up in raising him and not teaching him proper responsibility, judgement et al, it is still an adults place to make needed changes. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, the kid broke the law, the parents did not. It is not illegal to over indulge ones children or teach them that money buys cool stuff and happiness or that all the shallow kids will think your cool if you act like you are the center of everyones universe.
Ignorance of responsibility and good judgement are no excuse either. If the parents knew their son was a moron and would speed around like a ***** ape then perhaps they should bear some legal consequence, otherwise they just get the emotional guilt.
In the end the parents get to live with the repercussions of this tragedy and hopefuly learn from it.
I feel bad for the families, driver and his victims but at the same time F' that stupid idiot. I'm sorry he can't stand trial for murder.
This reminds me of the girl that took daddies Porsche, clipped a car at well over the speed limit and slammed into a toll booth, ripping her head off in the process. She was under age though. I saved the pics and showed my daughter the chunks of scalp hanging from the top of the car to remind her why we drive responsibly.
I think his parents owned property at a fly-in community- if so he was not trespassing.
Also, having flown light planes, I can say it is very unlikely there would have been an issue with the car colliding with a plane. A cessna is not like a 747, it can abort a landing with almost no notice.
His parents did not own property at the community. He lived about 12 miles away. Considering that Travolta lands his 707 there I think that planes a bit bigger than cessnas are on the tarmac. Plus if a small plane is coming in, suddenly there is a car coming at 160 mph, I doubt that the pilot could react.
Thats a terrible thing. Should have had more respect for the car, people, and places he was dealing with. 18, 25, 35, i don;t care how old someone is. A BAD DECISION IS A BAD DECISION. My dad let me drive his camaro when i first got my liscense. I babied thehell out of it. Just the way i was raised i guess. Spoiled rich kids have no regaurd.
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