For Sale issues with yellow pro5 (anyone affected please post in here!)

Hey guys, I sent Yellow Pro5 a check for lover $200 for sonme parts for my P5over 2 months ago, and i still have not got the parts, and he keeps giving me excusues after excuses?

Any of you guys have any problems with this guy?? his name is Zach?

I asked him if he had a paypal account and he told me no, so i sent him a business check, come to find out I know he just purchased some parts of a few members with his paypal account?

I trusted him and now im getting screwed?

every now and then he responds and he assured me that my parts were going out today and that i would have tracking #'s pm'd to me but I got nothing?

any and all help would be appreciated. I am going to go to my bank this week and see if i can recover my funds, and then i am going to try and see what other options i have criminally.

I hate when you put your trust in someone, and they just take your money.

I have been a member on many forums and have never had a problem, this is a first.

Thanx! guys

 

[harrisonchang]

i just got off the phone with my local police department. they said that because the transaction took place on a private forum rather than, for example ebay, it is a civil matter. there is nothing the police can do. what ever happened to the cyber crimes unit of the fbi idea? anybody persue that further?

hahaha, that's one of the responses i received to one of my paintball transactions. Lost 300 bucks to some guy in Florida.

 

[yudkib]

local police said... its a civil matter.

so you could go to police, but theyre going to tell you its a private debt that has to be handled in civil court first, and come back to them when you have a delinquent judgement against him.

hello...? anyone...?

additionally i talked with my roommate, who is applying to law school (not in it yet) about any ideas. he said you can go to the bank, even though you can't stop payment on the check...
this is where i got confused. you can explain the situation to them and say you want to "file an affidavit" or have them file it on your behalf (or something) and if they agree with your side of the scenario, they issue you a refund and take it from there.
apparently banks can use that affidavit and present it to police, which after being approved basically says to the guy you have xyz days to pay us (the bank) or heres your court date, p.s. youll be going to jail. in any case the bank refunds you up front.

again, i have no idea how this scenario works. just what i heard from him.
and for real, get in touch with ForceFed about how he got the information on the previous court cases. if the bank doesnt want any part of it then thats your only shot to getting justice within the next like 6 months.

 

[dannyxcarr]

they didn't even tell me anything about a delinquent judgement. just that they couldn't help me. still doesn't make sense to me though. a loop hole that makes it legal to take someone's money? what the hell is wrong with our legal system?! i knew i wanted to move to canada. (not that there aren't scammers and theives there, but at least i'd get free health care)

 

[Lil_vicious559]

IANAL, but i believe all you can do is pursue a civil case against him at this point. ForceFed mentioned that other people have tried this against this individual and he hasn't paid his judgements. so sending him to court again isn't really going to do much.
i believe to go for a criminal case, you have to wait for him to be delinquent on the civil judgement. that's a while off for the parties at hand, here, but if you could track down one of the other people, they should be able to move things forward. i dont know what the next step is for delinquent payments (i.e. another 60 days once its brought to court vs. straight to jail) but they are much further into this than the people in the thread.
again, NOT legal advice. just what i understand of the law.

Actually sending him to court again is actually worth a shot. I don't know how it is over there, but down here. There was a judge that didn't show, and we got a substituted judge from another town. This guy put the hurting on some of the people.

Maybe if the judge see's this guy again, he might rethink and consider giving him time. And actually make him pay his dues or serve community service. I mean it's always worth a shot. Judge's don't like seeing the same people over and over.

Hopefully everyone here either get's there parts or money back!

 

[yudkib]

they didn't even tell me anything about a delinquent judgement. just that they couldn't help me. still doesn't make sense to me though. a loop hole that makes it legal to take someone's money?

it sucks that they wouldnt help you. ill start there.
its not a loophole, really. its a pain in the ass, but he can still be prosecuted.
(attention)
first off, the ebay thing is because a purchase is a legal contract in their TOS. you have a verbal agreement, which is the fancy way of saying "he said/she said". the judge gets to decide who's right, and thats all a civil judge can do (he cant send him to prison) since youre right, he has to pay you (aka refund your money, what youve after anyways) and in court, has to pay fees.
but hes not going to pay. his track record indicates that.

since you now have a judge who settled the argument, when he doesnt pay, then you can have him arrested for not following the terms of the settlement. thats a criminal offense. a judge in criminal court would be extremely interested to hear about his past history, as it would more than likely result in a longer sentence.

plan b is to find someone who already has a settlement out against him, and convince them to prosecute him. then you wont get your money back but at least its behind you right away.
whether you have someone else prosecute him, or you take him to civil court yourself (and have him arrested when he doesnt pay), either way you get your money back or he goes to jail. thats it.
so the quickest solution IMHO is find someone to prosecute him. otherwise it could take months to get a hearing, then you have to wait for the terms of the settlement to expire.

makes sense right?
just my 2 cents... plus theres always that bank thing... id probably look into that first.

 

[kevo26]

For the buyers still having issues, I'd give up entirely on phone/texting the guy. PM or e-mail him with the history, but, as I keep saying, keep records of everything.

If you're really concerned about the cash, contact a lawyer and see what legal ramifications there might be to get your money back and at least leave a mark on his record as a result.

Having the records from E-mail/PM is definately a quicker route for recalling information. However text messages aren't private, big brother looks at those too. All it takes is a warrant, the right firm, and depending on how far back you want to look a day or two.

 

[SirDaft1]

Being one of the guys who got scammed by yellowpro5, I don't think the dollar amounts involved are worth taking to a very high level (nor would they be looked at with much seriousness if brought to civil courts- perhaps Judge Judy?? lol).

In all honesty, I moreso feel bad for yellowpro5 out of all of this. How sad it is that a 30 year old has to go onto a friendly car forum to scam a few users out of a couple hundred bucks and completely ruin their reputation.

Yellowpro5, if you're reading this... I genuinely hope this couple hundred bucks was worth the feeling you have riding on your conscious right now. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

 

[Wagonbacker9]

talk about bein the bigger man....

 

[SwampAss]

Being one of the guys who got scammed by yellowpro5, I don't think the dollar amounts involved are worth taking to a very high level (nor would they be looked at with much seriousness if brought to civil courts- perhaps Judge Judy?? lol).

In all honesty, I moreso feel bad for yellowpro5 out of all of this. How sad it is that a 30 year old has to go onto a friendly car forum to scam a few users out of a couple hundred bucks and completely ruin their reputation.

Yellowpro5, if you're reading this... I genuinely hope this couple hundred bucks was worth the feeling you have riding on your conscious right now. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

This is exactly how I felt when I got scammed out of $150 for motorcycle parts.


Bravo.

 

[dannyxcarr]

as soon as i found out the police weren't going to do anything for me, my very next thought was, i hope he needed the money more than i did...

 

[q7suited]

He actually called me 2 days ago, and told me that he did not ship my bumper. It really pissed me off but for once it seemed like he was a bit honest. He told me he is going to give me a partial refund for the bumper, but swore to me that everything else has shipped??

He said last monday and tuesday he shipped a few things for members through ups and then other through usps standard.

I got 1 part ups. But no other packages from usps. I have talked to some of my local authorities and they say there is definitely hope, and the more people that come forward will make his local authorites go after him.

I am also going to go to my bank and speak with them. He actually called me and does stay in contact so i am still hoping for the best.

 

[KrayzieFox]

He actually called me 2 days ago, and told me that he did not ship my bumper. It really pissed me off but for once it seemed like he was a bit honest. He told me he is going to give me a partial refund for the bumper, but swore to me that everything else has shipped??

He said last monday and tuesday he shipped a few things for members through ups and then other through usps standard.

I got 1 part ups. But no other packages from usps. I have talked to some of my local authorities and they say there is definitely hope, and the more people that come forward will make his local authorites go after him.

I am also going to go to my bank and speak with them. He actually called me and does stay in contact so i am still hoping for the best.

It's good to hear that something is finally starting to show up.. but why would you settle for a PARTIAL refund if he's not gonna ship your bumper?!

 

[ucMP3]

^ A partial refund? Why only partial???

 

[tunersteve]

He actually called me 2 days ago, and told me that he did not ship my bumper. It really pissed me off but for once it seemed like he was a bit honest. He told me he is going to give me a partial refund for the bumper, but swore to me that everything else has shipped??

He said last monday and tuesday he shipped a few things for members through ups and then other through usps standard.

I got 1 part ups. But no other packages from usps. I have talked to some of my local authorities and they say there is definitely hope, and the more people that come forward will make his local authorites go after him.

I am also going to go to my bank and speak with them. He actually called me and does stay in contact so i am still hoping for the best.

Tell him to refund you everything minus the part you got, then tell him if the parts arrive, you will pay him back.

 

[q7suited]

he actually just contacted me and told me he will overnight me a full refund if i dont have the parts by saturday. He shipped parcel post which takes 2-9 business days maybe longer during the holidays and usps still does not guarantee that. So we wil lsee what happens.

he was giving me a partial refund just because he did not send the bumper, i agreed to that because i picked up a bumper locally yesterday.

So now im just waiting on my taillights, grille, coolant canister, and rear wiper.

I am hoping for the best. He said he did a mass mailout last Tuesday and shipped everybodys stuff usps, so hopefully things will show up.

 

[yudkib]

he probably is issuing a partial refund because hes broke. no shame in asking but doubt it will do much.

i think bernie madoff is the only scammer who was pretty well-off.

 

[tunersteve]

he actually just contacted me and told me he will overnight me a full refund if i dont have the parts by saturday. He shipped parcel post which takes 2-9 business days maybe longer during the holidays and usps still does not guarantee that. So we wil lsee what happens.

he was giving me a partial refund just because he did not send the bumper, i agreed to that because i picked up a bumper locally yesterday.

So now im just waiting on my taillights, grille, coolant canister, and rear wiper.

I am hoping for the best. He said he did a mass mailout last Tuesday and shipped everybodys stuff usps, so hopefully things will show up.

How many times have we heard that one before?

 

[q7suited]

true, but just trying to stay positive!

He has left me 3-4 voicemails, and i have saved them so when I go to the authorities i have a bunch of documents. I have pm's, texts and voicemails, and theya re all saved.

 

[tunersteve]

true, but just trying to stay positive!

He has left me 3-4 voicemails, and i have saved them so when I go to the authorities i have a bunch of documents. I have pm's, texts and voicemails, and theya re all saved.

Good to hear. I'm glad we're seeing some progress from this. I have also recommended that when this issue is resolved, that he be banned from the For Sale section of the forums as a result. I don't want this to ever happen again.

 

[ucMP3]

^ Good work.