Anyone remember my story about my AWOL soldier?
- Thread starter Matthew
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gee lets see. hes no longer a threat to this community, himself, his wife, his child, his unborn child. hes one less piece of s*** that can drag down an entire unit. hes one less dirtbag that can get people killed in combat because he is a ******* pussy that cant deal with life in the army and chose to attempt the easiest possibly route out - which was abandoning his family, going AWOL twice, using cocaine twice to purposelessly get discharged on the thought that we would never do anything but discharge him without punishing him.
maybe he went about trying to get out of the army the wrong way but hey he realized he couldn't hang and wanted out so why not let him out then instead of making him stay there a be a threat to fellow soldiers and what not. sounds silly that when some 1 signs up having never been there before that once there and realizing that he hated it for whatever reason why make him stay and be a threat to all, that part is the army's fault for mAking him stay. how is some one supposed to know what it;s like unless you try it??? but once you try it you can't stop or get out. reminds me of the crack heads you see downtown they try crack just once and there hooked and can't stop even when they try because there body says they must sorta like the army.
now i have several friends and family that have been in the forces so in no way am i trying to knock the forces i just never understood why if you realize you no longer can do it or lose that motivation why not let them out it is VOLINTARY to get should be the same way out.
once again matthew im not knocking the army just questioning the rule
now i have several friends and family that have been in the forces so in no way am i trying to knock the forces i just never understood why if you realize you no longer can do it or lose that motivation why not let them out it is VOLINTARY to get should be the same way out.
once again matthew im not knocking the army just questioning the rule
well if everyone just quit their job in the army like they quit in civilian life, it would cost millions if not billions extra to train NEW replacements, not to mention have a detrimental effect on morale and welfare of the units.
you know what youre getting into before you join. you have to swear in and be aware of your obligation several times before leaving for basic training.
instead of being such a ******* pussy, he could have sucked up the 1.5yrs he had left instead of abandoning his family.
you know what youre getting into before you join. you have to swear in and be aware of your obligation several times before leaving for basic training.
instead of being such a ******* pussy, he could have sucked up the 1.5yrs he had left instead of abandoning his family.
wow, 5 months for going awol... wonder what the cats will get who were abusing the prisoners... well, actually, probably not much since the soldier who used excessive force (killed) a prisoner was just demoted, then removed from the service. oh well... so goes teh realities of war.
boostisgood
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FIrst and foremost, you know what life is going to be like before you sign your final enlistment paperwork. At that point, when you sig, your ass is owned by Uncle Sam. You are actually also offered several chances to get out durning basic training, which is the HARDEST part of military life for most people. If your past that point, you 100% owned by the govt.
Remember, the US govt invests around 75000 dollars per soldier to complete thier basic training and advance training. For someone to do what they have done, which is against military law, is wrong and punishable by military law.
You also have to realize that there are stricter laws under the UCMJ which all military personell fall under, along with the civilian laws. The ass munch broke the UCMJ, so he to be punished under the UCMJ.
As you said, you have not served, so you truly could not understand. You should just leave it at that, and let the Military men, and the military justice handle it.
Remember, the US govt invests around 75000 dollars per soldier to complete thier basic training and advance training. For someone to do what they have done, which is against military law, is wrong and punishable by military law.
You also have to realize that there are stricter laws under the UCMJ which all military personell fall under, along with the civilian laws. The ass munch broke the UCMJ, so he to be punished under the UCMJ.
As you said, you have not served, so you truly could not understand. You should just leave it at that, and let the Military men, and the military justice handle it.
boostisgood
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MAtthew, suggestion bro. Dont post anymore stuff about the military, most people on this forum dont understand that the UCMJ is much different then civilian justice, and different circumstances in different stuations will warrant different penalties.
Actually the charges were:tonkabui said:
2 Counts of FTR (failure to report, in this case prescribed formations)
2 Counts of AWOL (with apprehension as opposed to turning oneself in)
2 Counts of wrongful use of cocaine
Maximum punishment - 12 months hard labor in federal prison, 2/3 forfeiture of all pay and allowances, bad conduct discharge.
He got off a little easy in my opinion. The Army does not bulls*** around when it comes to s*** like this. If one person gets off light for these things, the next thing you know our unit will have a fuckload of worthless drug addicts.
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Matthew said:
There's a right way to use cocaine? Sorry matt, had to ask. I think the punishment is appropriate. I mean, thats bout what someone would get if they had coke and did a few other petty things. But meh. Personally, I think that if you sign up for something, you follow through with it. Just my opinion. but then, my opinion is also against wars altogether, but I realise that's not the soldiers decision, they just decide to help out, being patriotic, and help their country, so it's all good for you, but **** BUSH!
the rightful use, believe it or not (dont get any ideas drug users lol) is for:
1) medicinal
2) experimental where approved prior to by the fed govt
3) while during an undercover operation where ingesting of a controlled substance is instrumental in the cover of the agent (ie - snorting coke to avoid detection or suspicion by the criminals)
4) when not aware of the consumption (ie - someone slipping a controlled substance into your drink at a party without your consent or knowledge)
1) medicinal
2) experimental where approved prior to by the fed govt
3) while during an undercover operation where ingesting of a controlled substance is instrumental in the cover of the agent (ie - snorting coke to avoid detection or suspicion by the criminals)
4) when not aware of the consumption (ie - someone slipping a controlled substance into your drink at a party without your consent or knowledge)
TXMazdaSpeeder
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i had a smartass comment for part of that but i lost it,Matthew said:
hell i dunno, im just relaying what the GCMCA (General Court Martial Convening Authority) relayed to the counsels. i assume if i was undercover and if i didnt snort it would make all the mob i was hanging out with suspicous, i would be a snorting mofo to save my life. in that case, you could not be prosecuted under UCMJ.CatD399 said:
StarvingRussian
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I agree with the guy's punishment, if he signs that he knows he can't just leave and he does leave he should definitely be punished. He isn't doing something ridiculous like selling flowers on a corner or some s***, he's working for the government to protect the country.
