+40 offset

[shane02pro5]

All four for balancing like you stated and maybe $50 bucks at a local machine shop. I would say from a 42mm to maybe 46mm and check it, difference of 4mm (.1572" or 1mm=.0393") max probably would be 48mm (6mm=.2358") If you can't find someone with the same size wheel and offset for reference like me. I put the wheels on the rear and used a straight edge against the edge of the rim long enough to reach the opposite edge up to the fender to get a rough number to the inside edge of the fender but keep close attention to the clearance on the strut also.

By the way those are very sweet sticky tires very noticable difference from my Khumo 712's with my 10psi Hiboost.

 

[MoJoeTCM]

$50 a rim? GD!? I might as well return the rims and buy some tenzos instead

 

[Vampyre]

i dont kow about p5's but on the sedan the part that rubs the tire is on the front of the rear fender and is only about 4 inches and i rolled that with a rubber mallet no problem. but with only a 40 offset i dont think i could roll em enough

 

[CChris704]

test fit them and if they don't work send them back. that was my option and luckily they fit and I appear to have troom to drop too.

 

[chuyler1]

I've got +40 16x7s, lowered 1.4", and nothing wider than 195/50/16 will fit without rubbing. I could probably fit 205s if I rolled the rear fenders.

Anyway, you're asking for trouble. There are tons of wheels out there, keep looking and you'll find something you like that comes in +45 or +48.

 

[DsourceMsp]

I think I am going to to with the Motegi DP6 17x7 +42 with the sportlines on. (attn)

 

[chuyler1]

According to Rishie...
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9129

You can get away with 205/40/17 but if you want 215/40/17 you will need a +45 offset.

 

[sweetlou69]

so if i get something with a 45 or 48 offset i should be ok... what about like 42 w/goldlines installed?

 

[chuyler1]

Rishie's guide assumes you will be lowering so read my post above.

 

[shane02pro5]

$50 a rim? GD!? I might as well return the rims and buy some tenzos instead

I meant $50 for all four, it should only take about thirty or so minutes at usually around $100/hour.

 

[CasopoliS]

Ok I just read through this thread and want your advice...
I have Rays Engineering G-Games Rims, 17" X 7.0" - 42mm offset
I have stock RB springs in the rear, and Tein S-Techs in the front
The stock springs give less clunks and rubbing in the rear, though they only sit about .5" higher than the Teins. I will post picks of before and after with a ruler sometime.

I rub in the back when I hit bad bumps or take turns fast... mostly on the pass. side, but it happens on driver's side as well. I have the stock Potenzas on there now. Should I get smaller tires (205?), or should I have a shop machine them down to a 46 or 48? Does this machining compromise the strength of the wheel? It seems I have a lot of material there. Also, the inside of my 'spokes' come close to the caliper assy.... anyone machine too much and hit there?
Thanks... I appreciate the input.

Pics if your interested.... sorry so large

 

[chuyler1]

Going to a narrower tire will help. The cheapest solution is to roll the fenders (do a search if you want to know the pros and cons). Machining the wheels is probably expensive and I don't know what complications there are.

 

[shane02pro5]

Going to a narrower tire will help. The cheapest solution is to roll the fenders (do a search if you want to know the pros and cons). Machining the wheels is probably expensive and I don't know what complications there are.

Has anyone looked at their fenders? There is only about .250 lip to roll and when you do there is no support on the fender.

Just my opinion that's why I personally decided on the machining option. You should definately check your clearance on the calipers before doing this of course. I suggest having them re-balanced afterward also if that is what you decide on.
(rockon)

 

[mazdaowner123]

I'm going with +40 16" slipstreams and 225 victoracers. Right now I'm rolling on +45 slipstreams with a 5mm spacer (so basically, +40 slips) with 215-45-16 azenis (which run wider than most street tires of the same width) and I have 0 rubbing. I'm pretty confident I'll be fine with the +40s and 225s.

This is on JIC suspension.

~brian

 

[mazdaowner123]

16x7 +40 Slipstreams with a 5mm spacer all aroung (so basically +35 slipstreams) wtih 225-50-16 Kumho Victoracer V700 tires. Result: no rubbing. Had to raise the rear ride height a tiny bit, but the front fit no problem. w00t.

~brian

 

[FunkyBuddha]

Ok I just read through this thread and want your advice...
I have Rays Engineering G-Games Rims, 17" X 7.0" - 42mm offset
I have stock RB springs in the rear, and Tein S-Techs in the front
The stock springs give less clunks and rubbing in the rear, though they only sit about .5" higher than the Teins. I will post picks of before and after with a ruler sometime.

I rub in the back when I hit bad bumps or take turns fast... mostly on the pass. side, but it happens on driver's side as well. I have the stock Potenzas on there now. Should I get smaller tires (205?), or should I have a shop machine them down to a 46 or 48? Does this machining compromise the strength of the wheel? It seems I have a lot of material there. Also, the inside of my 'spokes' come close to the caliper assy.... anyone machine too much and hit there?
Thanks... I appreciate the input.

Pics if your interested.... sorry so large

YOu'll rub w/ the 42 offset even w/ the 205 series tires. And yes..machining will compromise strength especially taking 5-6mm off the wheel's hub. And if you machine too much, you will run the risk of hitting your caliper or your struts. What I would do is shave the fender lip first and switch to 205 tires.

 

[CasopoliS]

YOu'll rub w/ the 42 offset even w/ the 205 series tires. And yes..machining will compromise strength especially taking 5-6mm off the wheel's hub. And if you machine too much, you will run the risk of hitting your caliper or your struts. What I would do is shave the fender lip first and switch to 205 tires.

Thanks.

 

[evolv]

i pulled it off with style and grace.


i think iceman did it too but i won't tell the style because i'm waiting to unveil my car at end of summer when i'm done.

This is without a doubt the most stupid post of 2005. Why the hell would you boast about something with no proof or advice. The originator of this thread is looking for help and you provided none.

 

[chuyler1]

16x7 +40 Slipstreams with a 5mm spacer all aroung (so basically +35 slipstreams) wtih 225-50-16 Kumho Victoracer V700 tires. Result: no rubbing. Had to raise the rear ride height a tiny bit, but the front fit no problem. w00t.

~brian

I don't know if you have your numbers wrong or what but I have +40 TrackRs with 195/50/16s. There is no way in hell a 225/50/16 will fit without rubbing, let alone subtracting another 5mm from the offset. If I did the math correctly, the outside of your tire is about 20mm (3/4 inch) farther out than mine and the tires are an inch taller in diameter.

Either you have massive camber adjustments in the rear, your JIC suspension is jacked up to stock height or greater, or one of your numbers is off. Please post pictures.

For reference...this is +40 16x7 on 195/50/16s:
http://www.msprotege.com/members/chuyler1/wheels/IMG_0104.jpg
The edge of the wheel is already outside the wheel well.

 

[mazdaowner123]

http://www.msprotege.com/members/brianmcd/225/

Do these work? For some reason it won't load them on my comp, but says their uploaded. Anyway, I can go a lot lower in the rear, but I had to adjust the height last night because I already had an alignment scheduled for today, so I went for not having to keep fine tuning it (was working on it till 2am still, didn't feel like being up till 4). This is all being rushed to be ready in time for a track day on monday and tuesday, fine tuning will be next saturday. I'll also pull the rear spacer and see if it still clears the jics, and if it does I should be good with just rolling the rear and lowering it a lot more, but even if it has to poke out I can go lower. The fronts fit fine with no issues at all. My numbers are right, 16x7 slips w/ 225-50-16 victoracers. +40 offset + a 5mm spacer = 35mm offset. Never underestimate the powers of a stiff suspension hehe.

~brian