13.3 on 116 - Praise me

[kwiktsi]

[BI say, tune the car for 15psi and stay there, tune and continue tunning and maybe you will get more HP from 15psi than anyother with 20psi without proper tuning.

Thats what Im going to do, but at 10psi [/B]

It depends on the turbo you are running 15 psi with a super 60 compressor is a nice increase of air over a GT25 at 15 psi ..

Kinetix- again, I am still stumpped at how you are getting a super 60 wheel to work with this turbine? What compressor cover are you using?
Joe

 

[InsidiousMSP]

When I first read this I thought 119mph HAD to be a typo. 109mph seems somewhat reasonable. If it's for real though, imagine the cars you could hang with on the highway. Hell, a BPU Supra (400rwhp+) usually traps less than 119mph.

 

[kwiktsi]

When I first read this I thought 119mph HAD to be a typo. 109mph seems somewhat reasonable. If it's for real though, imagine the cars you could hang with on the highway. Hell, a BPU Supra (400rwhp+) usually traps less than 119mph.

That's why I said it would have to be a 350-375 minimum WHP in an MSP (a bit lighter than a Supra ).. Talons take about 375-400 to go 119 depending on weight..
Joe

 

[Kenetix]

The compressor cover is a modified GT35.

 

[kwiktsi]

The compressor cover is a modified GT35.

Who did the turbo? I usually deal with Robert from Forced Performance. I am looking to upgrade in the next couple of months..

I am still waiting to hear what your 60's were .. Also, if you have a breakdown of the whole slip- 60', 330', 1/8, 1/8 mph, 1000', etc.. I am curious where the power is coming on in the car to be running that MPH with that ET. It is a very impressive MPH.. I would love to see all the #'s. Thanks.
Joe

 

[yashooa]

MMMM

Is it me or is anyone else getting some "wood" over this thread and damn it Joe don't go shedding your stock stuff until you get it into the 13's.
Most of us seem to want to extract all we can from a reliable mostly stock setup.
I've got a Vericom 200 race version to do some tweaking with.
I'll be doing some runs out in the boonies to work out my driving technique on launch and turns etc.

 

[I-Am-Chris]

When I first read this I thought 119mph HAD to be a typo. 109mph seems somewhat reasonable. If it's for real though, imagine the cars you could hang with on the highway. Hell, a BPU Supra (400rwhp+) usually traps less than 119mph.

you have to also take into account that they usually cant drive, do 120 punches on the highway, and r dyno queens lol!!!

 

[Kenetix]

LOL, you gotta laugh at that one. No, actually this is a daily driver, and its my wifes to boot. Thanks to Best Buys wonderful warranty policy I don't know when I'll get my digi back but here is a break down for you Joe on all the times.

1/4 MPH 119.421
1/4 ET 13.366
1/8 ET 8.597
1/8 MPH 84.880
60 FT 2.400
Reaction time .513

As you can see, no real power till later on. I know I'm having trouble spinning the turbine at lower RPM's. Also, Eric from Midwest Turbo and myself are the guys that do the turbo work.

 

[kwiktsi]

LOL, you gotta laugh at that one. No, actually this is a daily driver, and its my wifes to boot. Thanks to Best Buys wonderful warranty policy I don't know when I'll get my digi back but here is a break down for you Joe on all the times.

1/4 MPH 119.421
1/4 ET 13.366
1/8 ET 8.597
1/8 MPH 84.880
60 FT 2.400
Reaction time .513

As you can see, no real power till later on. I know I'm having trouble spinning the turbine at lower RPM's. Also, Eric from Midwest Turbo and myself are the guys that do the turbo work.

WTF is wrong with the car? It has the 60' time to go mid 12's at that MPH and the 1/8 mile ET and MPH of a 13 second car at that 60'. I can see it coming alive up top, but to make 34 mph in the last 1/8 mile would take even more HP than I originally mentioned. How come nothing is adding up here? Trust me, if this is all for real, I don't mean to be making it hard on you- I have been through this before also with people not beleiving some of my times and I *KNOW* from experience that it sucks having to explain yourself, but things aren't adding up .. They haven't from the start. I want to jump for joy for ya, but I want to toss out the BS flag again at the same time.. What tires were you running? Was the car breaking up down low or anything? It would take a seriously messed up car to run like that or someone who didn't go WOT until about the middle of third gear .
Joe

 

[Turbo Matty P]

hey, I blew my motor on the dyno tonight! woohoo, but not before posting up 217hp on the motor! anyone gotta spare msp I can use for about 2 months while they put a new motor in mine? Also, Kenetix we were just talking about getting some forged internals and about 2 days too late since I slung the #2 rod out of the front of the motor!

 

[igdrasil]

1/4 MPH 119.421
1/8 MPH 84.880

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!
35MPH

 

[kwiktsi]

hey, I blew my motor on the dyno tonight! woohoo, but not before posting up 217hp on the motor! anyone gotta spare msp I can use for about 2 months while they put a new motor in mine? Also, Kenetix we were just talking about getting some forged internals and about 2 days too late since I slung the #2 rod out of the front of the motor!

Oh s***- WTF were you doing? What PSI, fuel, plugs, etc?? I am supposed to dyno mine tomorrow and don't need a re-enactment of your day .. Sorry to hear that man, that really blows.. I have been running 18 psi for about 3 days now with 116 and colder plugs with no issues at all, what was your fuel/tune?????
Joe

 

[AGR]

Wow!!!

This is wild.. All I know, so far is from now on; I'll keep my mouth shut and see what unfolds. (thumb) Keep up the good work guys!

 

[igdrasil]

hey, I blew my motor on the dyno tonight! woohoo, but not before posting up 217hp on the motor! anyone gotta spare msp I can use for about 2 months while they put a new motor in mine? Also, Kenetix we were just talking about getting some forged internals and about 2 days too late since I slung the #2 rod out of the front of the motor!

oh no...open a new thread an talk about it, I wanna know what happened.
217HP is not good if you blew your engine...damn thats sad.

 

[AGR]

oh no...open a new thread an talk about it, I wanna know what happened.
217HP is not good if you blew your engine...damn thats sad.

My thoughts, exactly!

 

[Turbo Matty P]

I was running 93octane, factory plugs and I have a full printout of the wideband02 readings however they are locked in the trunk right now. He was showing me how rich it was on the bottom end but it leaned out pretty good right before the pop! I'm thinking it was 10-1 or so for a few seconds then the boost just went through the roof and the motor popped...this was WITHOUT the MBC also. I think the wastegate hung or something.

 

[kwiktsi]

I was running 93octane, factory plugs and I have a full printout of the wideband02 readings however they are locked in the trunk right now. He was showing me how rich it was on the bottom end but it leaned out pretty good right before the pop! I'm thinking it was 10-1 or so for a few seconds then the boost just went through the roof and the motor popped...this was WITHOUT the MBC also. I think the wastegate hung or something.

Again, sorry to hear that. So you were at *stock* boost levels (aside from if the gate may have hung)? That is actually refreshing to hear (no offense), but it means something went wrong, not "you blew it up" by boost, etc..

Man, I was planning on dynoing at 11 psi, 15 psi, 18 psi and 21 psi (if it held up after the previous runs ).. I have done several 3rd gear runs from 2000 to redline at 18-21 psi to see if it hods together so I don't drench the poor guys dyno with oil . I have had 0 issues aside from the clutch breaking free twice .

I know on the DSM's #2 is the hot cylinder, could be the same here too- I wonder if it went too lean for the octane and detonated.. Was there any audible detonation prior to the pop?

I am still in shock here- I have been hammering my car for 6700 miles at no less than 10 psi- and I do NOT drive it easy with no problems- knock on wood .

I hope you don't mind discussing this, I know it sucks to do, but I just want to figure out if it is a frail motor for the MSP or a tuning issue for you.
Joe

 

[Turbo Matty P]

I think something foul happened to my motor. It very well may have leaned out. I'm about 90% sure there was a boost spike or something. I specifically saw the boost gauge hit about 13-14psi. I flagged him to stop and before it could idle down it popped. I've started a new thread, let's use it instead.

 

[kwiktsi]

I was running 93octane, factory plugs and I have a full printout of the wideband02 readings however they are locked in the trunk right now. He was showing me how rich it was on the bottom end but it leaned out pretty good right before the pop! I'm thinking it was 10-1 or so for a few seconds then the boost just went through the roof and the motor popped...this was WITHOUT the MBC also. I think the wastegate hung or something.

It is possible you popped one of the hoses off the wastegate or the rubber one on the actuator split/popped. Did you happen to see what the boost went to or past? What did he use to lean the car out?

I *think* I am going to go through with this tomorrow and see what happens. I am running 1 range colder non-platinum plugs (just being non-platinum makes it a colder plug to start) and 116, so if it was overboost/detonation that caused your failure, hopefully I'll be OK.. I am very nervous right now though- I need to line up another block just in case .
Joe

 

[Turbo Matty P]

I didn't see any hoses cracked or split. I did however spill a lot of hot coolant on the hoses about 2 hours before this. I wonder if that made them brittle?? Also, What are you using to avoid hitting the boost cut and how is thestock ignition hot enough to burn up 116octane??