why is there a street racing section?

[zoomzoom02]

Oh dear jesus! This is just like the 50 Cent Movie billboard up near a school where he is holding a gun and a mic. That automatically makes kids want to shoot someone...LET PEOPLE THINK! If someone wants to do something, albiet wrong, so what? If someone doesn't want to wear a seatbelt let them chance death. Why do we have to monitor everyone's actions and possible thoughts? Just leave it be and chill...

 

[Antoine]

Guys...It's not like one day everyone will agree...Set a date and let the votes decide!

So how about the end of the week? Say...Feb 10th?

 

[Rosshole]

Guys...It's not like one day everyone will agree...Set a date and let the votes decide!

So how about the end of the week? Say...Feb 10th?

I see that you have not voted yet......

 

[slug420]

Guys...It's not like one day everyone will agree...Set a date and let the votes decide!

So how about the end of the week? Say...Feb 10th?

a third option was suggested of making the street racing forum an auto-emptying one like the dumpster...can you add this to the poll?

 

[RaiderMS3]

a third option was suggested of making the street racing forum an auto-emptying one like the dumpster...can you add this to the poll?

I tried to add that, but I do not have the power.

 

[Rawyzf]

Guys...It's not like one day everyone will agree...Set a date and let the votes decide!

So how about the end of the week? Say...Feb 10th?

I thought this was your forum? You can let the votes influence your decision, but in the end it should be your call.

Not to get back to this whole tease thing, but we don't decide who gets the profits (if there are any), you do.

-Ryan

 

[Rawyzf]

This might have been mentioned earlier but if someone happens to die racing on a track are we going to get rid of all the racing forums? People who street race on empty roads and are organized about it rarely get hurt. It's the dumbass who tries to race while in traffic that causes most if not all of the problems.

Racing on a track is not illegal, unless you are there without permission. That's the whole point of this.

 

[Crazy D]

a third option was suggested of making the street racing forum an auto-emptying one like the dumpster...can you add this to the poll?

That is an option I would agree upon... the point of this thread is really not to find out if we agree of the action (Street Racing); it's point is to determine if "msprotege.com" should have a section dedicated to this or not....

We all know that leaving or deleting it really doesn't make a difference on the streets or on the board ... post will continue through out the site regardless... allot of points have been made across this thread and it only show's the understanding of these action's and the two sides to the coin.

We all know what's right and what's wrong... let's just let everyone enjoy there Mazda's in there own personal way... some like hp other like db's, so be it.

I don't think ping-pong is a relevant sport (if that) yet it is in the Olympics. Does it take away from the Olympics ? (nope) Only real difference is, you don't die playing ping-pong.

 

[ChiMSP]

Bah, let the kids have a little section about their battles. They're gonna street race anyway and by us removing the section will not stop them from acting dumb.... so....

 

[ThrillRide]

I am pleased to see so many are concerned with the lives of young kids and the general public for that matter. However I am disappointed to see the types of arguments being made. I know everyone likes to let their opinion be heard, but at least make it work reading. Flames and attacks and the crap talking dont really do much.


I would like to see, from those of you who are voting to close, a better focused avenue for your distaste for street racing. The likelihood that someone will be influenced to street raced based on a forum topic is rather unlikely. If you are truly that much against street racing you would be better served focusing your efforts where it really matters. Perhaps getting involved in driver education? Help educate young drivers how to handle a 3000-6000 lb killing machine. 16 year olds are some of the worst drivers. A very large percentage of traffic accidents involve young teenagers. Additionally many of the street racing deaths involve young teenagers. Makes sense right? Young drivers arent the best drivers..so when they push the limits even further the likelihood of a traffic accident increases. So dont try to close a street racing forum. Youd be better served spending the time getting involved on educating drivers or some other venue. But do you know just how many traffic fatalities occur from street racing? According to studies there were about 145 deaths related to street racing in 2001. Do you know what percentage that is of all fatal traffic accidents? Its about 0.30%. Not even half a percent! You know where the most come from? I dont need to say it do I..but I will.Drunk drivers! I almost lost both my parents and a sister to a numb nut who had been drinking. So maybe your focus should be there? A lot more deaths, young to old, occur from drunk driving and general traffic accidents. So stop wasting your time on a street racing forum.

<O></O>

The street battles forum is pointless for the most part except for general amusement and entertainment. Ill give you that. But thats enough to keep it.

<O></O>

The arguments (for or against) about not having or having threads about child porn or drugs and such are rather pitiable. However there are some that are obligatory and worth talking about. For instance many of you who are arguing for closure are the same people that would argue against censuring of the media you love to take part in. And many of you that argue to close are also people who modify your cars to go faster. Do you think talking about modding a car to go faster would encourage a young teenager to do the same? Just because you dont take part in talking about street racing doesnt make your actions any less impressive on a young or uneducated person. Do all of you who mod your car, stay under the speed limit? I somehow I doubt it. My commute every day is filled with people who are absolutely incapable of going the speed limit or less. The speed limit is there for a reason. When you go over it (street racing or not) you are endangering yourself and others around you. Subsequently those of you who are against street racing should probably look in the mirror before judging others. Your disgust here is misguided. You should focus your attention on bettering yourself and then getting involved in the areas that matter, rather than saying street racing is dumb, close the forum.

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I am not an advocate of street racing. Have I taken part? Sure, when the situation is right. Also note, weather you are at the track or the street, a poor driver can still kill you and themselves.

<O></O>

Educate the driver.

 

[slug420]

wow.

how bout a one sentence summary of wtf you are trying to say

 

[apocman]

Why? becuase you have the intellect of a talking monkey and have a hard time with reading and comprehension?

wow.

how bout a one sentence summary of wtf you are trying to say

 

[miata_racer]

My god you guys are still arguing? lol

Street racing "in theory" is not un-safe......but other drivers, obsticles, other cars, etc.....is what makes it dangerous. Plus there are people who can't drive to save their life who shouldn't be doing it but do it anyway.....those are the ones I hear about who wreck and die.

Personally I think the police should close off a secluded road so people can street race. But then comes the whole liability issue.

I'm guessing why people want to shut the street racing section down. To each his own right?

David

P.S. - I do race a friend every so often a few times a year just to goof off, but its nothing super high speed (0-75 kinda thing). But years ago I did used to race a couple times a month down highway 30 between Dallas and Arlington. That's how i got a speeding ticket (135 in a 60 zone)....but I've grown up a little not much

 

[apocman]

Glad to see you comment.... BTW, I found out you can order these brackets to fit the strut bar onto your wifes car....

My god you guys are still arguing? lol

Street racing "in theory" is not un-safe......but other drivers, obsticles, other cars, etc.....is what makes it dangerous. Plus there are people who can't drive to save their life who shouldn't be doing it but do it anyway.....those are the ones I hear about who wreck and die.

Personally I think the police should close off a secluded road so people can street race. But then comes the whole liability issue.

I'm guessing why people want to shut the street racing section down. To each his own right?

David

P.S. - I do race a friend every so often a few times a year just to goof off, but its nothing super high speed (0-75 kinda thing). But years ago I did used to race a couple times a month down highway 30 between Dallas and Arlington. That's how i got a speeding ticket (135 in a 60 zone)....but I've grown up a little not much

 

[dmitrik4]

i knew the "well, driving 4mph over the limit is the same as street racing" argument, as well as the "what about people who mod their cars?" argument, would eventually show up!! thanks for not disappointing, thrill ride. would your response be the same if we had a "successful DUI" forum? somehow i doubt it.

I'm guessing why people want to shut the street racing section down. To each his own right?

what's the difference between "in theory" and reality? people don't "theoretically" street race.

the fact that street racing is never really an action that affects only the participants aside (and thus "to each his own" doesn't really apply), the question isn't whether racing is a good idea or whether people will somehow stop doing it if we don't have a place for them to brag about it. of course they won't; kids have been racing cars on the street since cars were invented. that's not what this is about.

it's about whether this board accepts/endorses it or not.

 

[slug420]

Why? becuase you have the intellect of a talking monkey and have a hard time with reading and comprehension?

ya, thats it.

 

[SubXer0]

No point to removing it. people are going to do what they want regardless of whats posted on the internet.

 

[RaiderMS3]

The point of not having it is not to try to stop it, it is to show that the forum does not want to be portrayed to be a bunch of idiots going around bragging about how they beat someone on the street, probably while putting many people's lives at risk.

If the image Antoine wants to have of this forum is that "it is illegal, we put fine print that it is wrong, but here is a place to brag about it", that is up to him, I thought. Honestly, I did not even think it was that big of deal. Illegal activites bragged about on forum= remove it, I thought.

 

[SubXer0]

yeah i guess thats true too.

 

[Lt. Dan]

We already had this discussion about 2 years ago.... We made the split from the Racing Forum so that the street racing threads wouldn't gum up legit motorsports threads. If you noticed, we have actual pro-teams posting in our motorsports forum, and a lot of useful info being tossed back and forth. keep it the way it is.

Dan