Who likes/drives in SPORT mode?

[MikeM.]

I realized driving in manual mode the AVG mpg went up, from 35-36 mpg I've had on the dashboard even 40 mpg, no joke.

On this we agree. Manual shift mode can be used to increase MPG.

The reason I can get better MPG in manual mode is because I have eyes and can anticipate hills, tops of hills, dips, red lights, etc. The A/T can only shift by guessing what is coming next.

 

[sillyxone]

Talking about manual, somehow I prefer the Mazda's stick-shift over my wife's Accord's paddles. Perhaps because I usually drive with just the left hand on the steering wheel. Also, I use manual mode mostly at entering uphill ramp, and it's a little awkward to shift from the red light making a left/right turn into the ramp as the paddles rotate together with the steering wheel.

 

[Ricsta]

What do you mean by "quicker and safer"? I understand how to determine who stops more quickly (shortest distance) but what does "safer" mean?

It sounds like you are claiming publications like MotorTrend and Car and Driver who test many vehicles each year to determine the actual minimum stopping distances from various speeds could learn a thing or two from you. Because they don't use manual downshifting to haul the vehicle to a stop in the minimum distance.

Stopping distance is shortest when the tires are at the point called "threshold braking". The brakes are more than capable of achieving this condition and holding it until stopped. Downshifting is not going to make the tires grip any better so it's not going to shorten the braking distance. Not even a little bit.

Mike, I understand your point about the braking distance is relative to brakes achieving and holding tires at threshold braking, but I will play devils advocate anyway. If two identical cars under identical road and tire conditions apply maximum brake and the only difference between the two is that one runs into a brick wall head on midway through the process and the other doesn't. Isn't that a situation where one stops in half the distance vs. the other due to the influence of factors outside of holding the tires at threshold braking. Couldn't the same theory be applied to engine braking. I know it's somewhat of an apply to oranges comparison, but I think you get my point.

 

[sangs]

How to use "SPORT" mode ? how to ON/OFF while I am driving ?

 

[X5actor]

How to use "SPORT" mode ? how to ON/OFF while I am driving ?

OMG! You just need to switch it on. I believe there's an arrow or indicator near the switch to tell you to push it or pull it to switch it on. And off will be the opposite direction.

 

[jhu8]

OMG! You just need to switch it on. I believe there's an arrow or indicator near the switch to tell you to push it or pull it to switch it on. And off will be the opposite direction.

Probably doesn't have a 16 otherwise it is as you suggest, obvious how to use it.

 

[sillyxone]

just playing captain obvious:

 

[sangs]

Thank you friends (guitar)yes, understood. Used it..when I enable it, it will display "sport" in the odometer panel. I could not find much difference in city drive. I think I have to try it on driving uphill.

 

[sillyxone]

The difference is mostly at speed higher than 30-40mph, especially if you want that power instantly ready when you tap the gas pedal. I use it almost every morning, where I know I can make the next three lights within a window. Sport mode allows me to get to speed limit quickly, usually leaving 3-4 cars in front of me far behind. I wish there's a YouTube video comparing Sport and Normal mode going 0-70mph, I don't have access to a race track/course around here.

And yes, going up a hill, especially accelerating up a ramp will show the difference.

 

[Unobtanium]

The difference is mostly at speed higher than 30-40mph, especially if you want that power instantly ready when you tap the gas pedal. I use it almost every morning, where I know I can make the next three lights within a window. Sport mode allows me to get to speed limit quickly, usually leaving 3-4 cars in front of me far behind. I wish there's a YouTube video comparing Sport and Normal mode going 0-70mph, I don't have access to a race track/course around here.

And yes, going up a hill, especially accelerating up a ramp will show the difference.

Umm...LOL!

0-70 is the same sport mode or not. Placebo mode sure is a good marketing tool, I guess.

 

[sillyxone]

Umm...LOL! 0-70 is the same sport mode or not. Placebo mode sure is a good marketing tool, I guess.

I know, that's what I thought, just want to have a confirmation. Of course if you test it by flooring the pedal, it doesn't matter which mode you're in, but I'd like to see someone test it with a regular tip-in driving, too.

 

[Unobtanium]

I know, that's what I thought, just want to have a confirmation. Of course if you test it by flooring the pedal, it doesn't matter which mode you're in, but I'd like to see someone test it with a regular tip-in driving, too.

Yeah, the CX-5 is faster than the the new Porsche 911TT, if you only give the Porsche 1/10th throttle...

 

[Lbear]

Yeah, the CX-5 is faster than the the new Porsche 911TT, if you only give the Porsche 1/10th throttle...

And you are the biggest tool and troll this forum has

 

[jhu8]

It's funny that all of us that actually HAVE the sport mode, commend it, appreciate it, and are happy with it. Then a select few here where we know they do NOT have it, just trash it and talk down on it all the time. If you don't have it, don't trash it. The sport mode definitely makes a difference.

 

[Scythe024]

It's funny that all of us that actually HAVE the sport mode, commend it, appreciate it, and are happy with it. Then a select few here where we know they do NOT have it, just trash it and talk down on it all the time. If you don't have it, don't trash it. The sport mode definitely makes a difference.

I've asked them to link there source multiple times and they have yet to link any article, photo, or video justifying there claims. I'm not calling them liars, I just want proof of there claim. For me I don't use sports mode even though I have it.

 

[Unobtanium]

I've asked them to link there source multiple times and they have yet to link any article, photo, or video justifying there claims. I'm not calling them liars, I just want proof of there claim. For me I don't use sports mode even though I have it.

It's a feel-good thing. But America likes to feel good. See: Trump. Bernie. Waistline. Welfare. Charity. Affirmative Action. Etc. 'Murica loves a placebo.

Does Sport Mode hold gears longer? Sure. But I don't roll around in 3rd gear doing 60 looking for "roll-ons" with my slow ass Mazda. Some people might. For those terrors of the freeway, I guess I can see the value.

 

[Scythe024]

It's a feel-good thing. But America likes to feel good. See: Trump. Bernie. Waistline. Welfare. Charity. Affirmative Action. Etc. 'Murica loves a placebo.

Does Sport Mode hold gears longer? Sure. But I don't roll around in 3rd gear doing 60 looking for "roll-ons" with my slow ass Mazda. Some people might. For those terrors of the freeway, I guess I can see the value.

You say it's a feel good thing, but still don't provide any proof that it's only a feel good thing and doesn't actually have a effect. You would be silly to use it the way you suggested. That's like driving a manual car and being in a gear lower than you would need to. You would use it if you wanted to pass a car and wanted to stay in the power band longer before it shifts to the next gear (than turn it off) or if you were actually doing some spirited driving where you would be on the gas hard and going to brake before a turn and want to accelerate right after right away. I've used it a few times to slow the vehicle down without having to hit the brake.

 

[Unobtanium]

You say it's a feel good thing, but still don't provide any proof that it's only a feel good thing and doesn't actually have a effect. You would be silly to use it the way you suggested. That's like driving a manual car and being in a gear lower than you would need to. You would use it if you wanted to pass a car and wanted to stay in the power band longer before it shifts to the next gear (than turn it off) or if you were actually doing some spirited driving where you would be on the gas hard and going to brake before a turn and want to accelerate right after right away. I've used it a few times to slow the vehicle down without having to hit the brake.

I don't see the point. My CX5 holds gears until redline, and when I apply the brakes harder than "normal driving", it engine-brakes. I don't see the appeal to sport mode. I can pass cars and 0-60 just as fast as the 2016 with Sport mode.

ETA: I posted a video of me sedately driving through some corners demonstrating the automatic downshifting for corners in the other thread.

 

[sillyxone]

I don't see the point. My CX5 holds gears until redline, and when I apply the brakes harder than "normal driving", it engine-brakes. I don't see the appeal to sport mode. I can pass cars and 0-60 just as fast as the 2016 with Sport mode.

ETA: I posted a video of me sedately driving through some corners demonstrating the automatic downshifting for corners in the other thread.

Just to be sure that we're on the same page, do you have a 2016 with Sport mode, and have you tried it at least 5+ times?

I was thinking about putting a camera below the seat recording the pedal, and another recording the dash/speedometer, but then I don't know exactly yet how to show the difference. I guess I'll have to try a few times going on the same uphill ramp with and without Sport mode to know how to describe it. Mazda probably has some internal charts showing the difference, but for now it seems to me that it's like a car's handling, you have to drive a Mazda to know how it's different from a Toyota.

If you've tried Sport mode, do you notice that you just have to tip-in slightly, and it doesn't rev as loud as when you floor it, yet it stills get the power to accelerate quickly? That could be the difference I felt between normal and Sport mode when not pushing the engine to its max. I also noticed that while I described that there's a weak spot when the CX-5 shifts into 4th gear a little early when going uphill, yet you haven't experienced that, that makes me wonder if we have different "normal" throttle/tip-in definition/level.

At least in term of feeling, both my daughter and I can tell the acceleration in Sport mode pushing us against the seats, that feeling can hardly be felt in normal mode.

 

[Unobtanium]

Just to be sure that we're on the same page, do you have a 2016 with Sport mode, and have you tried it at least 5+ times?

I was thinking about putting a camera below the seat recording the pedal, and another recording the dash/speedometer, but then I don't know exactly yet how to show the difference. I guess I'll have to try a few times going on the same uphill ramp with and without Sport mode to know how to describe it. Mazda probably has some internal charts showing the difference, but for now it seems to me that it's like a car's handling, you have to drive a Mazda to know how it's different from a Toyota.

If you've tried Sport mode, do you notice that you just have to tip-in slightly, and it doesn't rev as loud as when you floor it, yet it stills get the power to accelerate quickly? That could be the difference I felt between normal and Sport mode when not pushing the engine to its max.

At least in term of feeling, both my daughter and I can tell the acceleration in Sport mode pushing us against the seats, that feeling can hardly be felt in normal mode.

I have a 2015 without sport mode, and it's faster than your 2016 with Sport mode, I'd bet, because it's lighter and has the same exact driveline. All Sport mode does is re-tune how the vehicle interprets pedal position, it doesn't extend any parameters in any way.

Here is the C&D 2014 test sheet: http://media.caranddriver.com/files...view-car-and-driver2013-mazda-cx-5-25-awd.pdf
Here is the C&D 2016 test sheet: http://media.caranddriver.com/files...2016-mazda-cx-5-25l-awd-instrumented-test.pdf


Now explain to me again how your "Sport Mode" equipped 2016 is faster...by my count...

Your 2016 is 0.1 second slower 0-60, 0.7 seconds slower 0-100, 0.1 second slower in the 5-60mph "street start" test (Where's your amazing throttle tip-in advantage?), and takes 9 feet longer to stop from 70-0 mph (Where's that amazing "more aggressive engine-braking"?)

Oh, the 30-50 passing is also slower by 0.1 seconds in your 2016, but the 50-70mph passing is a whopping 0.1 seconds faster, so...at least it's better at SOMETHING?

So much fail. But it sure does FEEL fast, ya? Facts aren't hate...