coololddude
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dealers have a LOT of options once you start modding your engine. if one of their options is to not spend a penny on your problem, DUH, good option for them!!
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warranty voided by mazda rep
- Thread starter phillyb
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It might be interesring. Let Turbo performance decide if the mods caused the problem. Once repaired with your billing statement from the folks at Turbo and take that to the Mazda service manager and ask for reinstatement of warranty. It sounds like the new shop might be where you want your car worked from now on anyways. Good luck P.
It might be interesring. Let Turbo performance decide if the mods caused the problem. Once repaired with your billing statement from the folks at Turbo and take that to the Mazda service manager and ask for reinstatement of warranty. It sounds like the new shop might be where you want your car worked from now on anyways. Good luck P.
lol, you guys just don't understand how it works....by having the car worked on somewhere else, you will def never get your warranty back.
You can take mazda/dealership to court but it will just be a waste of time and money in the long run.
It might be interesring. Let Turbo performance decide if the mods caused the problem. Once repaired with your billing statement from the folks at Turbo and take that to the Mazda service manager and ask for reinstatement of warranty. It sounds like the new shop might be where you want your car worked from now on anyways. Good luck P.
after seeing what they're done to another local ms3, it's definitely where i'm going to be taking the car...**** mazda
looks like this was my first and last mazda...
**** you mazda
way to make an awesome, fast, fun car and NOT cater to the aftermarket. who the **** do you think you are?
desperado-c
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lol, you guys just don't understand how it works....by having the car worked on somewhere else, you will def never get your warranty back.
You can take mazda/dealership to court but it will just be a waste of time and money in the long run.
They have already denied his claim at the rep level. He has no choice except to get his car repaired somewhere else. If it turns out that the claim is unrelated to his mods, he has no choice except to sue Mazda in whatever court it is that hears such claims in his state.
Since there is no such thing as voiding a warranty, he doesn't need to "get it back". Under the warranty, Mazda can only deny his claims on a case-by-case basis by refusing to pay for repairs that are shown to be caused by his actions or neglect.
It might well be a waste of time, but there are at least a few threads on this forum where an owner did get their money from Mazda by suing them, so it is not as hopeless as you make out.
FrequentFlyer
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The moral of the story boys and girls: b**** enough to someone high-enough about something that will hit close to home. Make sure they know you're willing and ready to throw them under the bus to get your way. I agree with the BBB idea too. I usually like to combine all of my ****** up ideas into a wonderful medly of threats, actions and intimidation tactics. In the end, persistence ALWAYS wins over resistance.(evil)
I agree with this method, but then again, I'm not one who believes he should build a relationship with the service department, ie: spend my money on their outragiously expensive service schedules, to be able to walk in and not have them find any little bulls*** reason to void my warranty. There's a definitive line between trying to pull a fast one on the service department by getting them to fix something that obviously failed due to owner modification and just trying to get a part replaced.
Bottom line is they cannot void your entire warranty. It's ILLEGAL and they know it. Raise hell.
I do not know if I buy that. I have done tons of work myself had some done at shops and even My local Mazda techs were interested in the car with my crap. Never questioned and I had warranty work done. It really is the particular shop and a great service writer. I was alucky one I guesslol, you guys just don't understand how it works....by having the car worked on somewhere else, you will def never get your warranty back.
You can take mazda/dealership to court but it will just be a waste of time and money in the long run.
lol, you guys just don't understand how it works....by having the car worked on somewhere else, you will def never get your warranty back.
You can take mazda/dealership to court but it will just be a waste of time and money in the long run.
You are wrong...I have sued for warranty denials on numerous occasions and have either won or the dealer has backed down and paid before we even got to court...FYI, for the dealer to win it has to have an "expert" testify that the modification caused the problem for which warranty coverage is sought...it is 100% Mazda's burden...
i don't want to sue anyone...
after going through a custody battle and now having to pay child support and not having my kids as much as i want...i would really like to stay away from court. **** all that
FYI, if it were the other way around Mazda would not hesitate to sue you. If you're not willing to exercise your rights, then you will continue to be taken advantage of for the rest of your life...good luck.
desperado-c
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FYI, if it were the other way around Mazda would not hesitate to sue you. If you're not willing to exercise your rights, then you will continue to be taken advantage of for the rest of your life...good luck.
No offense, but how much ahead did your clients come out? Vindicating rights is all well and good, but the OP is saying the hassle factor just isn't worth it in this case.
Still, I think everybody should take your point that if they do decide to vindicate their rights, the dealer has a big burden in showing the owner caused the problem. A warranty doesn't just go away b/c they say it's "voided".
No offense, but how much ahead did your clients come out? Vindicating rights is all well and good, but the OP is saying the hassle factor just isn't worth it in this case.
Still, I think everybody should take your point that if they do decide to vindicate their rights, the dealer has a big burden in showing the owner caused the problem. A warranty doesn't just go away b/c they say it's "voided".
Most of the cases I have handled were resolved after I filed suit with no hearing necessary so the client came out well ahead. But, read your warranty carefully as it may require you to go through arbitration before filing suit. Then if the cost for the needed repairs are less than your state's "small claims court" jurisdictional limits, it makes sense to sue in that court pro se, i.e., without an attorney. If the repair cost exceeds the small claims court jurisdictional limits, you will need to hire an attorney to assist you...in some cases you can get the court to award your attorney fees if you prevail.
jammypwnzor
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GALPIN sux!!!! i went there to test drive an ms3 and they way they acted made me leave!!! now i have an MSP... hehe. but good luck dude... sorry that that dealer is a bunch of ass clowns
You don't need to retain a lawyer for cases like this. I faced 3 of them and their so called expert witnesses and won my small claims case. To me it would be more of a hassle to let the dealer get away with this crap and just accept their no. But hey to each their own as the saying goes.
You don't need to retain a lawyer for cases like this. I faced 3 of them and their so called expert witnesses and won my small claims case. To me it would be more of a hassle to let the dealer get away with this crap and just accept their no. But hey to each their own as the saying goes.
You are correct if you proceed in "small claims" court with a judge making the decision. But, if you're in a state where the defendant can demand a jury trial in such matters, I would highly recommend retaining an attorney...
Which dealership is it that made you a satisfied customer? Maybe our boy should head over there for service?GALPIN sux!!!! i went there to test drive an ms3 and they way they acted made me leave!!! now i have an MSP... hehe. but good luck dude... sorry that that dealer is a bunch of ass clowns
That's harsh but the Service Manager at my Dealership once said 'If you think you can build a better car than Mazda by adding mods then you should be prepared to do the repairs yourself'.
I heard the same crap from my dealership when asking them about replacement of the rear motor mount. Keep in mind that Mazda is building the best $25K car they can, not a $100K car. Cost is an issue when designing and building these cars. Many after market parts will make this car much better than the one Mazda sells.
Question - What kind of warranties do the manufacturers of some of these mods offer? If it is determined that the Mod caused the problem, shouldn't there be some recourse with them?
slo03.5msp
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And to phillyb they didn't void your entire warranty just powertrain coverage. So any interior or exterior electrical problems or part failures are still covered. For example say you airbag light came on that is covered, say your window motor took a crap that's covered as well.
Time to call the BBB. They can't void your entire warranty. Time to raise the bulls*** flag.
This is exactly why I hid my boost line with wire loom and routed in areas they wouldn't see. All I have to do is unplug the boost gauge and take my Mearcat pod out, which is velcro'd to the pillar.
A lil off topic but i was reading the thread and i have to say if you have the opprotunity DO NOT!! DO NOT!! EVER GO TO GALPIN FORD EVER. They will try and screw you when ever possible. whether it be financing and puting on hidden charges right before you sign, or whether it is taking your car back on a simple warranty issue. If Galpin can screw you in anyway, make no mistake they will. I HIGHLY recommend going to another dealer prior to getting a car.
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