Wagner Shorty Header

[CFOLEY442]

i just ordered one of the wagenr shorty headers, looking for comments from people who own them on what to expect on intall and gains and over all feel.

thanks
chris foley

 

[protegeV]

i dont have one, but I a friend of mine shaved a quick .4 off his 1/4 mile E.T...impressive if I do say so myself, and it looks GOOD

 

[CFOLEY442]

i installed my shorty header this weakend it looks great and i deffinetly notice some more pull, but now i have a slight ticking sounf at low rpms, any suggestions

 

[protegeV]

maybe just hearing the valves more?

 

[bonesmp5]

look up Vivid -- i think he/she? has one ---- looks good

 

[ogsp5]

The header has been in for over a month. Very nice power gain at about 5000rpm. I also installed the down pipe W/O cat and the mid pipe with cat. The car is abit more noisy but want a difference when you punch it in third gear.

 

[sidpro5]

If all you install is the shorty, you'll need to unbolt the bracket that holds the pre-cat in place. It will need to be unbolted from the block and the cat. Also, use lots of penetrant.

 

[CFOLEY442]

why do you have to unbolt the bracket that holds the precat in place?

 

[wannabe]

hows wagner doin on turnaround these days? thats been my only reason for avoiding them as of late....with the whole nick scandal.....

 

[wagner]

Hey chris,

Im glad to hear your happy with it. Did you re-use your old manifold gasket or did you get a new one? sometimes you can get away with re-using them, but it sounds like you might have a little exhaust leak... try a new gasket and let us know.

Jared
Wagner Motorsports

i installed my shorty header this weakend it looks great and i deffinetly notice some more pull, but now i have a slight ticking sounf at low rpms, any suggestions
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Jon,

I would say the turn-around time has improved... Chris places his order on Wednesday, we made the header and over-nighted it to him so he would have it for the weekend. We have new ordering and shipping policies that went into effect so give us a call if you need anything.

Jared
Wagner Motorsports
717-846-1570

hows wagner doin on turnaround these days? thats been my only reason for avoiding them as of late....with the whole nick scandal.....

 

[CFOLEY442]

Hey chris,

Im glad to hear your happy with it. Did you re-use your old manifold gasket or did you get a new one? sometimes you can get away with re-using them, but it sounds like you might have a little exhaust leak... try a new gasket and let us know.

Jared
Wagner Motorsports

where would i go to get a new manifold gasket, and should i use gasket seal

 

[sidpro5]

why do you have to unbolt the bracket that holds the precat in place?

Because I said so.

 

[Subghetto]

CFOLEY442 check out this thread it has pics, I have the header and gave a review on it as well -
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73531

 

[sidpro5]

Ok. Seriously now, you have to remove the bracket to allow the downpipe to move a bit, as both the cat and the head have studs in them, not just bolts. Otherwise, you will not get the stock exhaust manifold off.

 

[CFOLEY442]

Ok. Seriously now, you have to remove the bracket to allow the downpipe to move a bit, as both the cat and the head have studs in them, not just bolts. Otherwise, you will not get the stock exhaust manifold off.

no i had no problem geting the manifold off, but puting the header on i snaped a bold in the precat, i tryed everything i could to get it out, then the screw extractor snap in the screw, i don't now what i can do to have it seel tight, i was thinking some type of exhaust gasket sealer.

 

[wagner]

You need to re-tap that hole and get a bolt in there or most likely your not gonna get it to seal. Try an easy-out, or try drilling it out completely and putting a nut and bolt through it. IF worst comes to worst (this is a last resort) you can try some RTV sealant, but thats only if nothing else works.

no i had no problem geting the manifold off, but puting the header on i snaped a bold in the precat, i tryed everything i could to get it out, then the screw extractor snap in the screw, i don't now what i can do to have it seel tight, i was thinking some type of exhaust gasket sealer.

 

[CFOLEY442]

You need to re-tap that hole and get a bolt in there or most likely your not gonna get it to seal. Try an easy-out, or try drilling it out completely and putting a nut and bolt through it. IF worst comes to worst (this is a last resort) you can try some RTV sealant, but thats only if nothing else works.

i'll try that, i kept killing drill bits trying to dirll thourgh it, i gonna see if i can find a high density bit, and what is rtv sealant

 

[sidpro5]

**Off Topic**

Hey Wags, good to see you back on here! Lovin' the header. Getting nice gains in the meat of the powerband. Also glad to see you're getting things together at the shop. Sorry I was such a PITA about my header.

**Back to Topic**

 

[wannabe]

Jon,

I would say the turn-around time has improved... Chris places his order on Wednesday, we made the header and over-nighted it to him so he would have it for the weekend. We have new ordering and shipping policies that went into effect so give us a call if you need anything.

Jared
Wagner Motorsports
717-846-1570

good to know. i'm deciding between going with this one, and buying a racing mazda off a member. this is definetly cheaper in the steel option.

how much will this still corrode? or will it be much more worth my while to go with stainless?

appreciate the followup (thumb)

 

[Dimitrios]

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Are the studs in the pre-cat the same size as those in the head?

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