US Diesel's big splash introduction

[Monterra]

It was a wonderful thread. I feel bad about being a part of the de-railment. We were getting so much fresh news from Mazda, and I had to go and ruin that.

Still is..derailment is kinda par for the course and hey if keeps a substantive discussion going while we wait but get sidetracked 100x s'all good. Cx5: the Maserati of appliance class cuvs..how much better it could be pulling down 35+ real world and/or being able to blast to 60 in the mid to high 6s for those willing to roll a few gs upfront..they have the powertrains and the upmarket room with the cx5 and could be a small cuv sales force if they offered these in upper trims rather than an honorable mention though they deserve credit for the early success with gen2 which would be more aptly depicted as gen1.5.

Hopefully we'll have some good diesel news to discuss/parse before this thread has a birthday!

 

[GJ-Molestor]

It was a wonderful thread. I feel bad about being a part of the de-railment. We were getting so much fresh news from Mazda, and I had to go and ruin that.

At least youre humble and openly admitted it was you. Says a lot about who you are as a person

 

[Unobtanium]

At least you’re humble and openly admitted it was you. Says a lot about who you are as a person

Well anyone can go back and see that it was I who deviated from all the news coming out of Mazda about their diesel and went off on a tangent. No use denying it and all.

 

[Buzzman12]

Well anyone can go back and see that it was I who deviated from all the news coming out of Mazda about their diesel and went off on a tangent. No use denying it and all.

Being on several forums, I can attest to the fact that derailment of threads happens all the time. The longer the thread, the worse it gets.
Human nature.

I for one always like to stay on topic.
BTW, did anyone watch the winter Olympics? Go Canada.

 

[Monterra]

Go Norway and USA curling and women's hockey! Nhl dicked up the men's side but I don't think pros should be eligible anyway...

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Being on several forums, I can attest to the fact that derailment of threads happens all the time. The longer the thread, the worse it gets.
Human nature.

I for one always like to stay on topic.
BTW, did anyone watch the winter Olympics? Go Canada.

What you did there....I see it! (rofl)

 

[Unobtanium]

Being on several forums, I can attest to the fact that derailment of threads happens all the time. The longer the thread, the worse it gets.
Human nature.

I for one always like to stay on topic.
BTW, did anyone watch the winter Olympics? Go Canada.

I know it's common, but I'm just so riddled with guilt. Mazda is giving all of us the silent treatment because I made them angry -

 

[Kaps]

FCA axes passenger diesel from 2022. I don't see a diesel coming. Mazdas EU market is going to slow down wrt diesels as well. So its Australia and Japan with smaller SE asia markets and S America. With no China and EU- making diesels is gonna be hard to justify. Mazda doesn't even sell AWD passenger cars in Left hand drive markets- axe diesel and focus on skyactiv X and hybrids for now and bring AWD cars to EU and US.

 

[Puyapim]

Is it possible that the SkyActiv X engine could make the diesel a moot point? Of course we will need real world experience with it but supposedly it has extra torque and 20% better fuel economy.

 

[Monterra]

Possible if not likely... but how long will it take to arrive? Will it be durable enough for 2, 300k without notable failure rates? I don't want to beta test it..its way cool tech and if it proves durable in the real world it will likely be the death knell for diesel for Mazda anyway to which I'd say good riddance. I say gimmie my diesel for the next 5-7 years then go from there with sky-x.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Is it possible that the SkyActiv X engine could make the diesel a moot point? Of course we will need real world experience with it but supposedly it has extra torque and 20% better fuel economy.

Will it get the diesel torque levels though?

 

[GJ-Molestor]

FCA axes passenger diesel from 2022. I don't see a diesel coming. Mazdas EU market is going to slow down wrt diesels as well. So its Australia and Japan with smaller SE asia markets and S America. With no China and EU- making diesels is gonna be hard to justify. Mazda doesn't even sell AWD passenger cars in Left hand drive markets- axe diesel and focus on skyactiv X and hybrids for now and bring AWD cars to EU and US.

Thats truly a shame. I would have bought a diesel if available in the model I wanted.

 

[Buzzman12]

What you did there....I see it! (rofl)

(yes)

 

[dougal]

FCA axes passenger diesel from 2022. I don't see a diesel coming. Mazdas EU market is going to slow down wrt diesels as well. So its Australia and Japan with smaller SE asia markets and S America. With no China and EU- making diesels is gonna be hard to justify. Mazda doesn't even sell AWD passenger cars in Left hand drive markets- axe diesel and focus on skyactiv X and hybrids for now and bring AWD cars to EU and US.

Yeah, I don't think we will see the Diesel. The hope was always that they offer it in other markets and it would be cheap and easy to bring it here.

Is it possible that the SkyActiv X engine could make the diesel a moot point? Of course we will need real world experience with it but supposedly it has extra torque and 20% better fuel economy.

Well, it is supposed to have a 30% increase in fuel economy as compared to the old engine (in the 2.0L engine) so we will see. The old 2.0 L in the CX-5 gave an overall MPG of ~28.11, which is not bad. A 30% increase would be an overall mileage of 36 MPG, which would be fantastic.

Basically, you would have similar performance between the 2.5 L CX-5 and the Skyactive-X 2.0L CX-5 but with almost a 10 MPG increase in fuel economy.

But not till 2021, which is a long way away...

 

[Xeler8ing]

Is it possible that the SkyActiv X engine could make the diesel a moot point? Of course we will need real world experience with it but supposedly it has extra torque and 20% better fuel economy.

No. See Mazda timeline below (red square):

 

[dougal]

No. See Mazda timeline below (red square):

Yes, but as countries are banning them, those plans might change!

 

[Xeler8ing]

True

 

[murky]

For those who are waiting, news of the official diesel release must be imminent because...

I bought a 2018 AWD GT Premium Red/Black yesterday.

 

[Monterra]

For those who are waiting, news of the official diesel release must be imminent because...

I bought a 2018 AWD GT Premium Red/Black yesterday.

Haha..nice- quitter!

 

[Red MC]

Another one bites the dust...

The downside of this trend is we're showing them that failing to bring the diesel to market isn't costing them any sales. (doh)