US 2007 Mazdaspeed3 and Mazda3

[jbiird317]

Yeah, I've already got a buyer for mine, she's willing to pay 8k for it. She was suprised as much as I was that she was okay with it. Should i go with the GT? or the Sport?

its tough to say without the pricing difference, if the sport is 21k and gt 23k, then gt, but if the sport is 23k and the gt is 25k+ then the decision gets a little tougher

i went with the gt because ive always had fully loaded cars and i couldnt see myself doing anything else but the same here

 

[seanw]

its tough to say without the pricing difference, if the sport is 21k and gt 23k, then gt, but if the sport is 23k and the gt is 25k+ then the decision gets a little tougher

i went with the gt because ive always had fully loaded cars and i couldnt see myself doing anything else but the same here

Word from a little bird (see thread @ post #22) is the sport is $23k + destination. I'm thinking $25k w/o nav for the GT.

 

[Insurance Guy]

So, Yea or Nea to a sunroof?

I've heard both sides of the story.

 

[TheDutchGun]

I've heard both sides of the story.

Thats a negative as far as I know, this car is built for speed, sunroof will compromise the body rigidity from what I understand. Is the sunroof a major sticking point? By the way, I'm also in the insurance industry and I'm getting the first MS3 off the truck at one of the Mazda Dealers here.

 

[wongpres]

I've heard both sides of the story.

No, and this applies to all markets.

 

[Insurance Guy]

Not going to break the deal.

Thats a negative as far as I know, this car is built for speed, sunroof will compromise the body rigidity from what I understand. Is the sunroof a major sticking point? By the way, I'm also in the insurance industry and I'm getting the first MS3 off the truck at one of the Mazda Dealers here.

I put my deposit down today - MS3 Sport in Black. I guess I'll be the second guy in Delaware with one.

As for the sunroof, the dealer said he did not know, but that they do work with an aftermarket installer that could do it for about $1,100. It would be completely covered by warranty. I'll toss that around a bit before making any decision.

For what it's worth, he guessed the prices at $22-23k for the Sport and $24-25k for the GT. He said he couldn't see the GT going for much more than $25k as the 6 is priced at about $27k, and that would put the two too close in price (Top-of-line 3 vs. Bottom-of-line 6).

 

[jbiird317]

I put my deposit down today - MS3 Sport in Black. I guess I'll be the second guy in Delaware with one.

hey man, congrats... 2 ms3's in DE will be badass...which dealer did you go through? I went to NuCar down on rt.13... their second one was supposed to be built after mine by like 2 weeks and if u went to them im gonna be verry happy taht i went on thursday and didnt wait...

 

[rbmazda3]

I put my deposit down today - MS3 Sport in Black. I guess I'll be the second guy in Delaware with one.

As for the sunroof, the dealer said he did not know, but that they do work with an aftermarket installer that could do it for about $1,100. It would be completely covered by warranty. I'll toss that around a bit before making any decision.

For what it's worth, he guessed the prices at $22-23k for the Sport and $24-25k for the GT. He said he couldn't see the GT going for much more than $25k as the 6 is priced at about $27k, and that would put the two too close in price (Top-of-line 3 vs. Bottom-of-line 6).

Umm...used Mazdaspeed6 are going for $28-30K. The one sitting on my dealers floor has a $34k sticker price. The GT 3 will be $27-28k. That's out the door price.

 

[Insurance Guy]

Umm...used Mazdaspeed6 are going for $28-30K. The one sitting on my dealers floor has a $34k sticker price. The GT 3 will be $27-28k. That's out the door price.

I'm quoting the dealer on this, and I agree with him, so take it for what it's worth.

Base Mazdaspeed6 lists at $28,600. That does not include tax/tags/destination, etc. They will not price the GT3 higher than that. It's common sense.

 

[Insurance Guy]

hey man, congrats... 2 ms3's in DE will be badass...which dealer did you go through? I went to NuCar down on rt.13... their second one was supposed to be built after mine by like 2 weeks and if u went to them im gonna be verry happy taht i went on thursday and didnt wait...

Yes, I went through NuCar - they happen to be the only Mazdaspeed dealer in Delaware. The second car, which is scheduled to be produced starting in "mid-August", was in Cosmic Blue and had already been ordered. I wasn't too interested in that color. The third was supposed to be red, but he is changing the order to black. The forth is supposed to be a silver GT.

I'm glad you're getting the GT, because I too would have been upset if I missed the boat. Thankfully, I wanted the Sport all along, so it worked out well for both of us.

We'll keep in touch, and most definitely meet up sometime in November.

 

[We Are Ninja]

Recently got a good look at the hatch and sedan side by side, and, aesthetically, the hatch was the logical platform. I knew the two were different, but I had no idea how different. The hatch has a much muscular shape. Without the flares and the bulges, the sedan is kinda sedate by comparison. Not bad, just not as aggressive...(ughdance)

Does anyone know if switching off the traction control will disable it COMPLETELY?

 

[seanw]

Recently got a good look at the hatch and sedan side by side, and, aesthetically, the hatch was the logical platform. I knew the two were different, but I had no idea how different. The hatch has a much muscular shape. Without the flares and the bulges, the sedan is kinda sedate by comparison. Not bad, just not as aggressive...(ughdance)

Does anyone know if switching off the traction control will disable it COMPLETELY?

I can tell you that on the MS6 turning off the DSC/TSC, engaging the handbrake and leaving it on the lowest setting (takes rear diff out of the loop), and then launching at 3k will give you some pretty good wheel spin. So, I'd say yes.

 

[rbmazda3]

I'm quoting the dealer on this, and I agree with him, so take it for what it's worth.

Base Mazdaspeed6 lists at $28,600. That does not include tax/tags/destination, etc. They will not price the GT3 higher than that. It's common sense.

Base is the key word here. I have never seen a base model Mazdaspeed6. They are always built loaded at the factory and it makes sence. As will it for the Mazdaspeed3 to be loaded. The salesmanager of my dealership lives 4 houses down from me and he has already told me there will be a substantial market adjustment for this car given the numbers that are going to be produced this year and the already high interest in this car. Don't take my word for it though. But i will take a picture of a sticker this fall and reflect back on this post once they are here. He is saying in the nieghborhood of 3k. Granted my market demographic may be different from yours but this car will be well sought after.

 

[Insurance Guy]

Base is the key word here. I have never seen a base model Mazdaspeed6. They are always built loaded at the factory and it makes sence. As will it for the Mazdaspeed3 to be loaded. The salesmanager of my dealership lives 4 houses down from me and he has already told me there will be a substantial market adjustment for this car given the numbers that are going to be produced this year and the already high interest in this car. Don't take my word for it though. But i will take a picture of a sticker this fall and reflect back on this post once they are here. He is saying in the nieghborhood of 3k. Granted my market demographic may be different from yours but this car will be well sought after.

Base model (def.): The lowest trim-level in a particular model line of automobiles.

In this situation, the MS6 Sport sans any options would be the "base model". Base model does not mean it's a stripped-down vehicle. It simply means it is at the bottom of the model line.

Yes, they are both loaded. You can check the mazdausa.com for the standard and optional equipment on the MS3 Sport and GT. That doesn't change the fact that the MS3 Sport would be the "base MS3".

I agree the market will be very hot for this car, but according to the dealer I spoke to, they will not be marking up the price. Now, in the grand scheme of things, does his word really matter? No, because he doesn't set the pricing. But I'll tell you, if the MS3 Sport comes in at $25-26, then I'll find a new car. That is the prime reason I stopped looking into the Civic Si Sedan - the $4-6k markup Honda dealers put on the Si.

 

[freekwonder]

Base is the key word here. I have never seen a base model Mazdaspeed6. They are always built loaded at the factory and it makes sence. As will it for the Mazdaspeed3 to be loaded. The salesmanager of my dealership lives 4 houses down from me and he has already told me there will be a substantial market adjustment for this car given the numbers that are going to be produced this year and the already high interest in this car. Don't take my word for it though. But i will take a picture of a sticker this fall and reflect back on this post once they are here. He is saying in the nieghborhood of 3k. Granted my market demographic may be different from yours but this car will be well sought after.

The same thing happened and was said with the MP3 and the MSP. but with the MSP when they tried it (atleast in my area) the cars didn't sell so they actually started dropping the prices on them. Nobody in my area payed mark up for a MSP and I didn't pay any mark up on my MP3.

 

[stillflat4]

Anyway, an ECU reflash is now available that will make it detect more knock cycles before limiting throttle. At least one MS6 owner has gotten the reflash and is happy so far.

Experienced the problem twice, both on hot days about a month back. Had the reflash done and we've had 90-100 degree weather for the past few days here in NY. No problems, pulls very nicely.

 

[Falango]

I noticed that there are lots of different bumper/hood lines between each of the models. The MS3 grill is the same as the 07 Mazda 3, but the hood on the MS3 is straight across, where on the regular 07 3, it drops a bit to the center of the upper grill. Why would Mazda do this? All that does is complicate the process of replacing parts, or if soemone wants to mod this and that, say get the MS3 front end for their Mazda 3, they would have to redo the whole thing. Anyone else see this as a complication?

 

[Kansei]

^^^ it greatly reduced the ugliness of the 3 IMO so yeah. It's also because like the 6 I'm sure there's ducting to direct air to the top mount intercooler.

 

[nate0123]

I noticed that there are lots of different bumper/hood lines between each of the models. The MS3 grill is the same as the 07 Mazda 3, but the hood on the MS3 is straight across, where on the regular 07 3, it drops a bit to the center of the upper grill. Why would Mazda do this? All that does is complicate the process of replacing parts, or if soemone wants to mod this and that, say get the MS3 front end for their Mazda 3, they would have to redo the whole thing. Anyone else see this as a complication?

maybe they don't want people riding around with poseur mazda3's

 

[seanw]

Experienced the problem twice, both on hot days about a month back. Had the reflash done and we've had 90-100 degree weather for the past few days here in NY. No problems, pulls very nicely.

Good to hear. I'm still holding off since I've had only one incident (incline, too low a gear, passengers, etc.)