True 3" MSP DP
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RXMmazdaspeed
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- 2007 Mazdaspeed 3
those are some pretty good prices... but keep in mind we have a limited edition car, which will drive the price up on anything aftermarket. i still want to see the quality on the guy claiming to have gotten one for 150 or w/e it was.
anarchistchiken
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Honeslty man, you're comparing the MSP market to RX-7's and ford power stroke diesels? Not quite the same. Good research though.
II-Savy said:
I'm not knocking your research, because I really enjoy when people do research to back their opinions. A lot of those pipes are aluminized steel, only a couple have the bends that the MSP one has, and finally they are all for larger production vehicles. Let's say Beau puts all the time and effort into these and maybe sells five. How can you justify that comparing to those who produce Evo and Sti DPs that will probably sell hundreds. If they only make a hundred off each DP they are multiplying that by a lot (let say a hundred then they make ten thousand dollars). If Beau does that he puts all that time and sells five he make a few hundred dollars (not even the hourly wage of a basic mechanic). I'm sure he is just jumping for joy at that opportunity, especially considering he put out a beautiful manifold at a very reasonable price for the MSP and we still complain about the price. Most people on here are driving a MSP and are cheap. Not exactly a community a vendor who makes quality parts gets a lot out of.
I want one of those....i'll be saving for it. prolly be able to in a month. I just bought the unichip today. But this is my next mod. Beau i already have your midpipe and it was awesome quality. You guys make some good products, and don't listen to the s*** heads that complain. If they don't want it or think its to expensive they can buy something else and stfu.
Thanks to some of you guys who are giving positive comments on my new piece, but if a moderator reads this thread then please close and/or delete it. I wanted to show off something that I was super stoked about, and now this s*** just bums me out. Most of you guys need to grow up and stfu. I will say it one more time, the amount of work that goes into bending and ovaling and notching this pipe is retarded.... Beau didn't want to make it for me for this very reason. Those links that II savvy posted are pipes that are mostly made of cheap material and don't have any complex fabrication. If you guys don't want to pay for the best, then get something else, and quit polluting my thread with this nonsense. Nuff said.
Back to the regular scheduled thread now, and what I intended it to be in the beginning...
We had to fabricate a new lower radiator hose because it was too close to the DP for my liking, so we made a custom stainless steel and silicone hose similar to what comes with the Thumper and Sleeper kits. This setup requires flipping the T-stat housing upside-down so the outlet points up instead of down, and then routing the hose up, then towards the radiator, then down, then into the radiator nipple. With how tight everything is right there with the IC pipe routing, it was quite a chore. I made the 500 mile journey back home last night (left at 1AM, slept for 4 hours at a rest area, then got in at about noon), and finally got the chance to open her up and give it some hell this afternoon. All I can say is holy ******* s***. I can break the tires free in third gear from a roll at 12psi, and the car is pulling like a ***** freaking ape. I seriously can't believe how much power this made on my setup. I am guessing that I am now closer to 290whp instead of my early estimates of 280-285. Furthermore, the turbo whistle is insanely loud, and the exhaust note at WOT is almost scary sounding. The car is amazingly easy to get into positive pressure now... It is almost TOO easy. I can be cruising along in fourth gear, barely blip the throttle, and the car will get into boost even at low RPM. The power down low out of boost when cruising up hill in fifth is very good, which surprised me a little considering I also just got a 7.5lb flywheel.
All in all I am very stoked about this whole thing, even with this thread pretty much turning to s*** and not getting nearly the kind of response I was hoping for with such a unique new piece. Oh well I guess, this is not for everyone, but I am more than happy to have gotten rid of the last remaining piece of the stock exhaust on my setup... especially after measuring the 1.25" cross section in the first bend of the stock S-pipe.
I will be headed back to the dyno here after about a week or two of road testing to see what she puts down.
Back to the regular scheduled thread now, and what I intended it to be in the beginning...
We had to fabricate a new lower radiator hose because it was too close to the DP for my liking, so we made a custom stainless steel and silicone hose similar to what comes with the Thumper and Sleeper kits. This setup requires flipping the T-stat housing upside-down so the outlet points up instead of down, and then routing the hose up, then towards the radiator, then down, then into the radiator nipple. With how tight everything is right there with the IC pipe routing, it was quite a chore. I made the 500 mile journey back home last night (left at 1AM, slept for 4 hours at a rest area, then got in at about noon), and finally got the chance to open her up and give it some hell this afternoon. All I can say is holy ******* s***. I can break the tires free in third gear from a roll at 12psi, and the car is pulling like a ***** freaking ape. I seriously can't believe how much power this made on my setup. I am guessing that I am now closer to 290whp instead of my early estimates of 280-285. Furthermore, the turbo whistle is insanely loud, and the exhaust note at WOT is almost scary sounding. The car is amazingly easy to get into positive pressure now... It is almost TOO easy. I can be cruising along in fourth gear, barely blip the throttle, and the car will get into boost even at low RPM. The power down low out of boost when cruising up hill in fifth is very good, which surprised me a little considering I also just got a 7.5lb flywheel.
All in all I am very stoked about this whole thing, even with this thread pretty much turning to s*** and not getting nearly the kind of response I was hoping for with such a unique new piece. Oh well I guess, this is not for everyone, but I am more than happy to have gotten rid of the last remaining piece of the stock exhaust on my setup... especially after measuring the 1.25" cross section in the first bend of the stock S-pipe.
I will be headed back to the dyno here after about a week or two of road testing to see what she puts down.
LinuxRacr said:
No I didn't, but even if I did, most of these people wouldn't care anyways. I seriously think that most of the people here would rather their car be powered by ebay or something. The biggest kicker about the whole thing is that these guys don't even know what grade of SS Beau uses, and yet they claim to KNOW how much it should cost. Whatever, what's done is done, and everything that needs to be said has been said.
This thread is now re-opened and in the section that I moderate, so please keep it clean and on topic about my particular piece. You guys don't need to worry about it anymore because IF they are made, it is going to be a limited production run of maybe 5-10 pieces and the only people that will be able to get them will be loyal customers.
If there is even one more comment bitching about the estimated price, then I am re-closing this thread, and cleaning out ALL of the BS from the entire thing. Like I said before, if you don't like it, hit the back button and move along. If you feel like you can get a better deal elsewhere, then do it. End of story.
Now then, back to my piece shall we? I absolutely ***** a brand new mustang GT today, and the guy was like WTF?
He rolled down his window and said "that thing is rowdier than hell... Nitrous?" Haha! I told him "no bottle feeding MY baby", and then he said "how the hell are you accelerating that fast with the tires squeeling like that in second and third?" And I just laughed and said "practice", and then made my turn. Haha, this thing is ULTRA fast now, and I am more scared than ever that this motor is going to just up and say, "nah, **** you man, I'm tired of this s***.... KABOOOM!!!" (rofl) The tune is still good though, and I am holding a solid 11.0-11.2:1 AFR. Still 9 degrees of timing pulled at the max tq point and max hp point. Hopefully the factory freak of a motor will hold out for a couple more months until the swap, and live on forever as the strongest stock protege motor ever, lol. I will seriously have to bury it in my backyard if it does blow, it will be like losing a member of the family.:'(505zoom said:Now then, back to my piece shall we? I absolutely ***** a brand new mustang GT today, and the guy was like WTF?
Damn all that on stock internals... nice work. Good kill to.
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Thats impressive, I had a hard time spinning the tires in third. Maybe you have the first 300+whp stock bottom end?
dude, this so makes me want to buy the 2.5" S-Pipe. I've posted about it but haven't gotten any response. You make me want to at least put the 2.5" on my ride. Congrats and it is jus awesome to hear about you making all that power. What's funny, is that I can picture you with this s*** eating grin and that oh s*** look on your face from all the power...hahahaha... Nice going, let me know about that 2.5" since you have the in with Beau.
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- Hemi Ram, 71 Plymth Scamp, 71 Plymth Duster 340, 69 Dart 340/4sp
With the right tires he would probably run a 13.3...maybe alittle faster. However if he put the right tires on I am positive he would buring the motor in his back yard...lol
CasopoliS said:
Thanks man.
peepsalot said:
Werd. The exhaust was stock S-pipe, then a 2.5" J-pipe, then 3" back from there. The magnus exhaust was advertised as a 3" turbo-back, and even though I knew it wasn't a turbo-back, I was kind of surprised to see it be 2.5" at the outlet of the J-pipe.
jurgs01 said:
Yes I did... I just cut off about 5" of the midpipe right there where it connects to the J-pipe. That made it so it was a full 3" instead of the 2.5" taper to mate up to their J-pipe.
BlkZoomZoom said:
If it puts down 300whp and doesn't break on the dyno then I will be jumping for joy and throwing a party, lol. I think it is close, but I don't think it is breaking that barrier quite yet. I could be wrong though... I know for sure that it picked up quite a bit of power when I gutted the cat... And it felt like it made just as big of a jump with the new DP. I would have to pick up 37whp over my latest best pull though, and I am just not sure if it was a 20whp jump for both... maybe 15 each, but 20 might be a stretch. PM me your number so I can call you when it gets off the dyno if it breaks 300 and lives, haha.
TheJohnny said:
Yea, the 2.5" pipes that I saw that were finished look ultra nice... I put one of them on my turbo and bolted the manny back up to test it for clearance fit, and everything was fine... it was a little close to the tranny and oil pan, but if IIRC that is exactly how the stock exhaust is. It's just been so long since I have seen where the stock exhaust sits, and we didn't have a stock midpipe to throw on my car, so we are sending one to mallard to test fit it. As soon as he gives us the word then we will be getting the ball rolling on the 2.5" pipes again.
MSP #167 said:
The track here is at 5500ft, so cars run about a full second slower or a little more. My buddy has a SPEC-V that put down 265whp at 11psi on the same dyno I run at, and those cars are pretty close in weight to ours. He ran a 14.4 here, and a 13.3 in california. I am guessing mine would be in that ballpark.
BlkZoomZoom said:
(mswerd) My thoughts exactly... that or the tranny or the axles, lol.
Thanks for the kind responses guys, this is definitely more like it.
