The "Device" is here !!

hmmm that's not too bad of an idea.. Although I'm not sure if there's anything that might be in the way of the out end of the probe?? I don't know how other protege's have things organized around that area.

If possible-they'd have to send you out the gauge and they'd just tap the manifold and screw in the probe. Although as long as the manifold is off the car-that process isn't hard at all as long as you have a drill.
 
On a side note-I finally put my ecu all back up and tighty--cut my hands to shreads again!!! :'(

I'll remember to wear gloves next time.

On a nother side note--turning the boost up on the turbo isn't as easy as I thought... I'm thinking I'll have to take the turbo off to do it. There isn't much room at all to do what needs to be done... I'll probably do it when I take the manifold off for the EGT guage tap.
 
$$$$$$$$ (sad2) too expensive mang or I would.

How hard are they to install anyways? I'm not sure what it would include.
 
They are very simple to install. It should take about 30 minutes to install. You gen get a good one from Turbo X/S or the greddy profec b. The turbo X/S ones are cheap
 
this one is a greddy unit manual controller. They work good and we sell them for $220.00

The profec B is$350.00 and is an electronic. Or you can check out dawes devises. They make some really low budget units.
 

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Is the Turbo XS reliable. Is the Greddy worth the extra cash.
How does the electronic boost controller work and how is it better then the pressure driven waste gate. Also is it in any way worse.
 
Is the Turbo XS reliable. Is the Greddy worth the extra cash.
Generally electronic boost controllers are more problamatic then good.However The profec b is an excellent electronic unit and is actually better than even the more expensive profec with fuzzy logic and HKS units. The greddy and turbo X/S manual units are very good. This is from my personal experience.

Another cool boost controller is the apexi if you are the tinkerer. Holds boost well and has lots of neat features: RPM-based boost and solenoid duty cycle control, scramble boost, self learning mode, 2D ghost map trace mode, analog display mode, real time replay and peak hold data modes. I have personal experience with this as well and its an excellent unit but extremely pricey. But it look like the afc fuel controler. Again this is not necessary to have but if you like gadgets this is the thing to have.
 
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I downloaded and read the manual for the Greddy.
Is this device compadable with the waste gate that came wiht the BEGI kit?
WHat is the advantage of using an electronic boost controler? Other then to have something to screw with.
 
I'm trying to figure out how exactly the boost controller works...You turn a knob and the boost goes up and down, but how does it actually achieve this??
 
I think those kind of controler (for internal wastegate) adjust the vaccum to let less vaccum go to the internal wastegate. This retard the opening of the wastegate which is controled by a spring that have a specific pressure resistance.

In example, on my turbo I have a 8 psi wastegate spring. When the pressure go over 8 psi, the spring release the wastegate valve. Those controler just release some pressure before it goes to the wastegate, so the wastegate don't see the real pressure. Like if you are runing at 10 psi and the wastegate see only 8psi.

I hope my English writing is understandable.......
 
Stou said:
I think those kind of controler (for internal wastegate) adjust the vaccum to let less vaccum go to the internal wastegate. This retard the opening of the wastegate which is controled by a spring that have a specific pressure resistance.

In example, on my turbo I have a 8 psi wastegate spring. When the pressure go over 8 psi, the spring release the wastegate valve. Those controler just release some pressure before it goes to the wastegate, so the wastegate don't see the real pressure. Like if you are runing at 10 psi and the wastegate see only 8psi.

I hope my English writing is understandable.......

I see what you are saying, thanks.
 
That's about right. All boost controllers work the same way - they only let the wastegate see part of the boost being produced.

However, there's no need to spend money on a boost controller for the FM kit. Simply adjust the length of the pushrod that goes from the actuator to the wastegate. This should be threaded - it usually is. A boost controller comes into the equation when you either want to go above the boost levels offered by the wastegate or if you want some "boost assist" - a feature of some electronic controllers that will prevent the wastegate from seeing any boost until you get to a certain target to promote faster spoolup. At 8 psi on an FM kit, that's probably overkill.

To answer a question from way back, yes, we can drill and tap the manifold for an EGT sender. That photo I posted earlier was for a customer car. We'll be happy to sell you the gauge as well :)

Keith
 
FM has cool dual gauges that can read A/F and EGT...I was looking at them last night. Then dreaming of the possibilities...
 
StuttersC said:
FM has cool dual gauges that can read A/F and EGT...I was looking at them last night. Then dreaming of the possibilities...

Damn! I may have to trade up to that gauge then.
 
The gauges and senders are on the Miata side of the site...They have a lot of cool stuff for the Miata.
 
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