TheHonzaP5
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I was wondering if anyone replaced their orange bulbs, in the rear signal lights, with the Ultra bright LED and how they look? I was trying to figure out what kind I would need and how much they would cost. Any suggestions?
Replacement LED for rear signal lights
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sundevilMP5
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i personally haven't done this yet...but i plan to...i'm gonna be replacing all my bulbs...well at least all the orange ones...but you should be able to find the specs in the manual...i'm not 100% sure but i think the rear tail numbers should be in there...to answer your other question...shouldn't be too expensive...i'd say no more then $20...that's what my bro paid for his accord tail bulbs...
but becareful....depending on how anal the cops are in your area...they could technichally give you a ticket...of course that comes with all mods...but it seems that cops are REALLY anal about changing lights...we got stopped for having these lights on the bros accord...said something about people will think they are reverse lights if they are clear...whatever...oink oink...
happy driving
but becareful....depending on how anal the cops are in your area...they could technichally give you a ticket...of course that comes with all mods...but it seems that cops are REALLY anal about changing lights...we got stopped for having these lights on the bros accord...said something about people will think they are reverse lights if they are clear...whatever...oink oink...
happy driving
NOPE...you will not find the bulb numbers in your manual...they are NOT there.
however....if you do a search on lights, bulbs or a few words like that you may find what you are looking for....there are certainly a lot of threads in that catagory....however....someone DID post all the bulb numbers a while back.
however....if you do a search on lights, bulbs or a few words like that you may find what you are looking for....there are certainly a lot of threads in that catagory....however....someone DID post all the bulb numbers a while back.
TheHonzaP5
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Thanks guys, that is good to know, and I'll try and find that thread. Yeah, my friends got pulled over as well, but that was because they used blue colors in the back, and their fronts weren't amber. But yeah, I'll check it out.
TheHonzaP5
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CCool, found this site https://www.netdisty.net/ds/aut1157/Default.asp
has good options, but rather pricey? Sorry I'm kinda new at this, plus am a college student (don't have much dinero to spend). Would these fit fine?
has good options, but rather pricey? Sorry I'm kinda new at this, plus am a college student (don't have much dinero to spend). Would these fit fine?
Just an important note on the LED conversion you all are thinking of doing:
I am nearly 100% sure that our cruise control uses a voltage meter-type setup - meaning that when you press the brake, there is a sensor that picks up the voltage travelling to the brake lights, and tells the cruise to shut off. If you install LEDs, your cruise will not shut off when you press the brake.
This was posted a while back by a guy who swapped out bulbs for LEDs (may have been on a Pro sedan, but same thing applies). Because LEDs draw damn near no current at all, the voltage sensor does not pick up that the brake lights are on, and your cruise will stay activated, and will probably attempt to accelerate the car, because it is slowing down (you're on the brakes) - this could be quite dangerous (duh).
I had suggested that he tap into the wiring for the brake lights - try to find those wires inside the car, and splice in a regular bulb and harness. This could then be hidden inside a panel of the car - the light won't be seen, but the fact that it illuminates will draw the proper voltage to allow the cruise shut-off sensor to work properly. I don't think he did this, as I think he had already returned the LEDs - I can't say for sure that it will work, but it seems logical enough to assume that it would.
Just remember, you might not think this is a big deal (I'll just never use the cruise control), but if you EVER lend you car to someone, or let someone drive while you sleep on a long ride, etc. - even a few years from now - and don't tell them not to use the cruise, or they forget, you might have a nasty accident in your future.
Just a heads up from someone who hates to see beautiful cars get smashed. Ugly ones are cool, though
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I am nearly 100% sure that our cruise control uses a voltage meter-type setup - meaning that when you press the brake, there is a sensor that picks up the voltage travelling to the brake lights, and tells the cruise to shut off. If you install LEDs, your cruise will not shut off when you press the brake.
This was posted a while back by a guy who swapped out bulbs for LEDs (may have been on a Pro sedan, but same thing applies). Because LEDs draw damn near no current at all, the voltage sensor does not pick up that the brake lights are on, and your cruise will stay activated, and will probably attempt to accelerate the car, because it is slowing down (you're on the brakes) - this could be quite dangerous (duh).
I had suggested that he tap into the wiring for the brake lights - try to find those wires inside the car, and splice in a regular bulb and harness. This could then be hidden inside a panel of the car - the light won't be seen, but the fact that it illuminates will draw the proper voltage to allow the cruise shut-off sensor to work properly. I don't think he did this, as I think he had already returned the LEDs - I can't say for sure that it will work, but it seems logical enough to assume that it would.
Just remember, you might not think this is a big deal (I'll just never use the cruise control), but if you EVER lend you car to someone, or let someone drive while you sleep on a long ride, etc. - even a few years from now - and don't tell them not to use the cruise, or they forget, you might have a nasty accident in your future.
Just a heads up from someone who hates to see beautiful cars get smashed. Ugly ones are cool, though
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i have all hyper whites all around on my car front and rear....... i paid around 24 dollars for each set of lights high beams low beams foggs and rear turn signals............and reverse lights...they are very bright............and when not on a nice blue shines out through the lense...... check it at www.picturetrail.com/4drmp5atr
hihoslva,
Sorry, I dont mean to correct you but changing the brake lights bulbs, or signal light bulbs to LED type bulbs will not cause your cruise-control to not work or to not turn off. It wouldnt make sense, lets suppose both of your brake lights were to simultaneously go out, it wouldnt cause the cruise control to not shut off if the brake pedal was pressed.
Just so everyone who is considering the LED bulbs, wont be afraid to use them.
If anyone is still skeptical, try it out with one Bulb removed. I'm sure the LED bulbs will NOT affect the cruise-control.
P.S.
hihoslva, again I dont mean to correct you but its great to know people on this forum is watching out for one another.
Sorry, I dont mean to correct you but changing the brake lights bulbs, or signal light bulbs to LED type bulbs will not cause your cruise-control to not work or to not turn off. It wouldnt make sense, lets suppose both of your brake lights were to simultaneously go out, it wouldnt cause the cruise control to not shut off if the brake pedal was pressed.
Just so everyone who is considering the LED bulbs, wont be afraid to use them.
If anyone is still skeptical, try it out with one Bulb removed. I'm sure the LED bulbs will NOT affect the cruise-control.
P.S.
hihoslva, again I dont mean to correct you but its great to know people on this forum is watching out for one another.
I am nearly positive this is how it works - and that if all your brake lights went out simultaneously, yes, the cruise would not disengage.
I suppose there is a possibilty that if the bulbs are not present at all (or blown) that the complete lack of continuity in the electrical signal may cause the cruise not to engage at all - that would be the proper safety measure, IMO, but I don't know if that's the case.
Also, in re-thinking a bit, the third brake light in the spoiler may provide enough voltage change to trip the system.
I guess the best way to test it would be to remove the bulbs, and see what happens with the cruise control. If it functions normally, there should be no problem with the LEDs. (Don't get caught on the highway without the brake lights, though - this test might cost you a ticket
). I don't know if only pulling one bulb will be a sufficient test - you're not just replacing one side with LEDs, after all.
I'm interested in hearing the results - please post if and when you decide to run a test, either by yanking the bulbs or installing the LEDs.
Oh, and no offense taken, of course - that's what this forum is all about - sharing opinions and info.
I suppose there is a possibilty that if the bulbs are not present at all (or blown) that the complete lack of continuity in the electrical signal may cause the cruise not to engage at all - that would be the proper safety measure, IMO, but I don't know if that's the case.
Also, in re-thinking a bit, the third brake light in the spoiler may provide enough voltage change to trip the system.
I guess the best way to test it would be to remove the bulbs, and see what happens with the cruise control. If it functions normally, there should be no problem with the LEDs. (Don't get caught on the highway without the brake lights, though - this test might cost you a ticket
). I don't know if only pulling one bulb will be a sufficient test - you're not just replacing one side with LEDs, after all.I'm interested in hearing the results - please post if and when you decide to run a test, either by yanking the bulbs or installing the LEDs.
Oh, and no offense taken, of course - that's what this forum is all about - sharing opinions and info.
man whose the brainiack that came up with this thought....... i wuz like what the hell you talking about changing my lights wont let my cruise control work...??? and i didnt change my break lights i changed my turn signals and reverse lights and etc... ones that would make a difference in visiablity and color...... and man you all come up wit some wierd ass thoughts..... "if my break lights all burn out does it ruin my cuise control???" crazy if you ask me.... i just wana know one thing what made you think of that at all having to do with break lights and cuise control..????
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I'm not the one who "came up with the idea" about the cruise control - I read a post on another forum (or it might have been this one - I'm not sure) from someone who swapped out his Protege taillight bulbs with LEDs and got the shock of his life when his cruise control wouldn't shut off when he hit the brakes, and tried to accelerate the car because it was slowing down.
Voltage sensors are a common trigger for disengaging the cruise control - it senses when the brake lights are on and drawing current. Mazda is not the only one who uses this technology. LEDs draw so little current when lit that the sensor doesn't pick it up.
The question about burnt out bulbs is perfectly valid - "if there are no brake lights at all, does this affect my cruise also?" If this is the type of system used in the P5s, that question is perfectly logical.
I was simply trying to give a heads-up to anyone who thought about changing the brake lights over to LEDs - this cruise control information is good to know, whether it happens or not. The third brake light might draw enough current to trip the sensor, but I just wanted to warn anyone who installs LED tails to be aware that it might cause a cruise control problem, and check it all out BEFORE the first panic stop from 70 MPH.
And I found one of the threads relating to this (but not the guy who's car kept accelerating): http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1380&highlight=cruise+bulbs
So what if the guy did this on a '92 - we might still have the same cruise setup.
Do you understand why might be important now?
Voltage sensors are a common trigger for disengaging the cruise control - it senses when the brake lights are on and drawing current. Mazda is not the only one who uses this technology. LEDs draw so little current when lit that the sensor doesn't pick it up.
The question about burnt out bulbs is perfectly valid - "if there are no brake lights at all, does this affect my cruise also?" If this is the type of system used in the P5s, that question is perfectly logical.
I was simply trying to give a heads-up to anyone who thought about changing the brake lights over to LEDs - this cruise control information is good to know, whether it happens or not. The third brake light might draw enough current to trip the sensor, but I just wanted to warn anyone who installs LED tails to be aware that it might cause a cruise control problem, and check it all out BEFORE the first panic stop from 70 MPH.
And I found one of the threads relating to this (but not the guy who's car kept accelerating): http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1380&highlight=cruise+bulbs
So what if the guy did this on a '92 - we might still have the same cruise setup.
Do you understand why might be important now?
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FunkyBuddha
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Well to dig up an old thread..yes the cruise don't work without taillights. I just replaced mine and now my cruise works again.
kudakev615
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MANY things tie into a cars cruise mode. i havent personally worked on a pros c/c but i'd have to look at a wiring diagram to know whats tied into what but i've worked on cars that use voltage offa stop lamps, systems that use brake/clutch switches and systems that use both. so thou using stop lamp voltage might sound wierd but you should look at wiring diagrams of new toyotas, NIGHTMARE!!!
