question: is overdrive on or off ?

[Salmon_Rob]

wtf are you talking about? i have posted 2342341234123 things confirming that there arent over drive gears in manuals, they have overdriven ratios. it is completely different. i never said we didnt have gears with overdriven ratios, i said we didnt have "overdrive" as it were that he is talking about. our ratios are a constant, they will never change, there is no button, there are no gear sets that move into place. it is a ratio built into the transmission for cruising, and to lower the final drive to improve gasmileage.


if you dont understand this, im sorry, i simply cannot dumb it down anymore

 

[iLisa]

play nice...

 

[Rac3rX]

a top gear that is higher than 1:1. Originally overdrives were only provided as optional units bolted onto the original gearbox, and often employing epicyclic gears. The term is now also applied to the top (usually 5th) gear ratio in the main gearbox when it is higher than 1:1

The gear with the overdriven ratio IS THE OVERDRIVE GEAR!!!!!!

Your too slow to understand this and its funny, even when they sell the car its listed as a 5spd with overdrive, Your the only persone I know of who thinks the overdrive gear isnt called a overdrive gear.

I geuss Mazda is Lying when they call it a 5spd with overdrive huh!

 

[Salmon_Rob]

overdrive is a set of planetary gears that acts a 4th, or cruising gear in automatics. When the button is active, the gears, similar to an lsd, are lowered onto the appropriate teeth and then act as an additional gear
NAProtege: manual transmissions have overdriven ratios in their top gears, i.e. a .9:1 drive ratio as opposed to the 1.19 that 4th has, making it more fuel effiecent at speed

does that make sense?

 

[jred321]

overdriven gear is different than an overdrive. i remember watching trucks one time and they had a 3 speed auto tranny and behind it they were putting an overdrive box that they could engage or disengage, which effectively made the transmission like a 6 speed because it could be engaged or disengaged in each of the 3 gears in the tranny. an overdrive in an auto is a separate thing. in a manual transmission you have a gear whose ratio is overdriven. their overall goal is the same, to reduce the ration to less than 1:1, but how they are accomplished and the point of the button on an auto is totally different (remember what the thread was about?)

 

[Rac3rX]

overdrive is a set of planetary gears that acts a 4th, or cruising gear in automatics. When the button is active, the gears, similar to an lsd, are lowered onto the appropriate teeth and then act as an additional gear
NAProtege: manual transmissions have overdriven ratios in their top gears, i.e. a .9:1 drive ratio as opposed to the 1.19 that 4th has, making it more fuel effiecent at speed

does that make sense?

How can you miss the point by so much so many times?

You better get another coffee

The gear with the overdriven ration is called the "overdrive" gear!

Come on this is simple

does that make sense?

 

[Salmon_Rob]

thank you jred

 

[98b/w pro]

I Think the improtant question is

Who the **** takes care of a rental car?

 

[Salmon_Rob]

i wasnt saying i was nice to it, i was saying i read the manual

 

[aMaff]

seriously, this is really nitpicky, but rac3rX, you're in the wrong on this 1. Quit digging, and take that quote out of ur sig.

 

[jred321]

The gear with the overdriven ration is called the "overdrive" gear!

no, it is not an overdrive gear. it is a regular gear with an overdriven ratio. it's the same as any of the other 4 gears, just a different size to create an overdriven ratio.

 

[Rac3rX]

Nobody is debating the 2 work in diferent, However they are acheving the same thing, overdrive.

And the world calls the overdriven gear in a manual the "Overdrive" Gear, & So will I, if you dont, thats good for you!

The term applyes to both the Manuals overdrive gear & The autos OD (Usually 4th)

Definitions of Overdrive

a top gear that is higher than 1:1. Originally overdrives were only provided as optional units bolted onto the original gearbox, and often employing epicyclic gears. The term is now also applied to the top (usually 5th) gear ratio in the main gearbox when it is higher than 1:1.
www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/FAQ.html

A transmission in which the highest gear ratio is less than a one-to-one ratio. This means the drive shaft turns faster than the engine crankshaft. The overdrive feature saves fuel and, because the engine runs slower, engine wear and noise are reduced.
www.cdnauto.org/glossary/o.asp

a gearset in which the output shaft turns faster than the input shaft. Overdrive gears are used in most modern transmissions because they reduce engine rpm and improve fuel economy. Occasionally, a separate gearbox with an overdrive gearset is coupled to a conventional transmission.
www.autocenter.com/about/

This is the highest gear in a transmission that is used for reasons of fuel economy when at cruising speed (and not to make the car go faster, as is quite widely believed).

 

[98b/w pro]

doooooode you owned yourself

Definitions of Overdrive

a top gear that is higher than 1:1. Originally overdrives were only provided as optional units bolted onto the original gearbox, and often employing epicyclic gears. The term is now also applied to the top (usually 5th) gear ratio in the main gearbox when it is higher than 1:1.
www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/FAQ.html

Definitions of Overdrive. is there the word gear here?
NO. SO umm no just no.

 

[Rac3rX]

Duh! they dont work the same, but they both are overdrive because the drive shaft turns faster than the engines crankshaft in both cases.

 

[Rac3rX]

doooooode you owned yourself


Definitions of Overdrive. is there the word gear here?
NO. SO umm no just no.

Ummm

a top gear that is higher than 1:1. Originally overdrives were only provided as optional units bolted onto the original gearbox, and often employing epicyclic gears. The term is now also applied to the top (usually 5th) gear ratio in the main gearbox when it is higher than 1:1

Read this CAREFULLY!!!

"The term is now also applied to the top (usually 5th) gear ratio in the main gearbox when it is higher than 1:1"


Um, having reading issues?

What you fail to realize is that this is a LIST of Acceptable definitions for Overdrive

"A transmission in which the highest gear ratio is less than a one-to-one ratio. This means the drive shaft turns faster than the engine crankshaft. The overdrive feature saves fuel and, because the engine runs slower, engine wear and noise are reduced."

&

"This is the highest gear in a transmission that is used for reasons of fuel economy when at cruising speed (and not to make the car go faster, as is quite widely believed)."

Included!

 

[jred321]

the point is that an overdrive is a separate entity not found in manual transmissions. it is an actual thing. manual transmissions do not have this thing called an overdrive, which is why there is no overdrive button on a manual

 

[98b/w pro]

NO ONE calls 5th gear the overdrive gear. Start a damn poll if you dont belive me,
Its 5th.

Can you honeslty say you would drive down the road in forth and say "WOW i need to shift to overdrive." How cool does that sound. It wouldnt everyone would look at you like your a tool.

 

[Rac3rX]

the point is that an overdrive is a separate entity not found in manual transmissions. it is an actual thing. manual transmissions do not have this thing called an overdrive, which is why there is no overdrive button on a manual

There is no overdrive button on a Manual because YOU HAVE TO MANUALLY SHIFT THE GEARS, HENCE MANUAL!!!! DUH!!!!

Overdrive is an accepted term for the overderive gear in a manual!!!!!

Weather its used by folks over here is irrelevant.

Thats It, Thats All!!!!

 

[Rac3rX]

Definitions of Overdrive on the Web:

a top gear that is higher than 1:1. Originally overdrives were only provided as optional units bolted onto the original gearbox, and often employing epicyclic gears. The term is now also applied to the top (usually 5th) gear ratio in the main gearbox when it is higher than 1:1.
www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/FAQ.html

A transmission in which the highest gear ratio is less than a one-to-one ratio. This means the drive shaft turns faster than the engine crankshaft. The overdrive feature saves fuel and, because the engine runs slower, engine wear and noise are reduced.
www.cdnauto.org/glossary/o.asp

a gearset in which the output shaft turns faster than the input shaft. Overdrive gears are used in most modern transmissions because they reduce engine rpm and improve fuel economy. Occasionally, a separate gearbox with an overdrive gearset is coupled to a conventional transmission.
www.autocenter.com/about/

This is the highest gear in a transmission that is used for reasons of fuel economy when at cruising speed (and not to make the car go faster, as is quite widely believed).

 

[98b/w pro]

so your gears would be listed as
1st/
2nd
3rd
4th
overdrive gear on my manual that ow3ns you

try fitting that on a shift knob