goldwing2000
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- 2004 Mazda3s Hatch; 346,000 mi (sold)
2024 CX-5 CE; 7,500 mi (so far)
If I had to choose a system other than Draxas (for the Mazda3), I'd choose Vibrant.
Question about Draxas
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I would say that all of them are pretty nice. The Vibrant is the only other bolt-on and it replaces the stock cat. It is a little more expensive, but looks and sounds awesome. Racing Beat also has a new system, you should give them a call to see if it is available yet or check their site at www.racingbeat.com. They will always be the quietest system if you are looking for something not too loud. They are also an OEM supplier for Mazdaspeed.
MightyMouse
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RHAGEL said:
It may not be street legal where you are, but it is street legal up here in Ontario, Canada. We are allowed to modify the catalytic converter/converters, as long as you still have one, and it passes a sniffer test.
MazdaAxela
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You have to understand Nik is running the whole show by himself. Along with RedLine Track Events and TimeAttack and the Fusion build his time is about as scarce as it gets Id imagine. If you give it some time you wont be upset with your wait for the exhaust.
racing beat's doesn't impress me much b/c of the sleeve or whatever they are going to use to connect their system to the cut exhuast right behind the cat. knowing that you have to cut your exhaust to get it off b/c of the subframe i have no problems removing the whole thing....
MightyMouse
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tsunami said:
I agree with you 100%. As soon as I see a slip fit on the exhaust, I think it is not as well made. What happens in two years if you want to take the system off for whatever reason...good luck getting that slip fit apart, you are going to end up buying a new cat. And slip fits do not prevent the two parts from twisting on each other 100%, so the exhaust can shift which causes parts to rub, noise and banging. And if the two parts are not new it is sometimes difficult to get a good seal between the two....like installing a new exhaust on a car that is more than a year old.
If that is the case than you don't have much to worry about. As far as I know, the Vibrant system is the only one that is bolt-up. All the rest are slip fit. I agree, I like the idea of a bolt up, but I'm not completely discounting the idea of the slip fit. It is just bulls*** to begin with that Mazda builds their cars that way.
goldwing2000
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RHAGEL said:
Other than the Draxas, you mean. Right?
MightyMouse
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The only two exhausts that are NOT slip-fit are the Vibrant and the Corksport (although, it looks like a slip fit on their website, but in actual fact, there is now a flange at the end). Draxas has slip fits and muffler clamps all over the place. As soon as you see a muffler clamp, it is not well designed/built.
goldwing2000
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- 2004 Mazda3s Hatch; 346,000 mi (sold)
2024 CX-5 CE; 7,500 mi (so far)
Any system that does not replace the second cat has to be a slip-fit or weld-on because there are no other flanges in the stock system.
The Corksport system loses the second cat without the option of adding a hi-flow.
The Vibrant comes with a hi-flow cat and all pipe connections are flanged.
The Draxas is flanged at the cat but slip-fit elsewhere. They do use band-style clamps instead of the regular muffler clamps, though.
The Corksport system loses the second cat without the option of adding a hi-flow.
The Vibrant comes with a hi-flow cat and all pipe connections are flanged.
The Draxas is flanged at the cat but slip-fit elsewhere. They do use band-style clamps instead of the regular muffler clamps, though.
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As goldwing said, you don't have too much choice considering there are no other alternatives unless you remove or replace the second cat. Here in CA, you wont' pass a visual smog inspection with an aftermarket cat. I know where you are it doesn't matter. You say that it is not well designed/built yet you have not seen them in person and you are discrediting companies such as Borla, Racing Beat, Thermal, etc. who have much more knowledge and expertise than you do. I think you should educate yourself a little before talking bad about something you don't know anything about.MightyMouse said:
MightyMouse
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RHAGEL said:
Ya, I don't know anything, you are right, I am wrong...
[sigh]
I'm not trying to be a jerk, you should just do a little research before bashing these companies about making poor quality products. Borla gives a million mile warranty on all of their products, I doubt they would sell you junk and keep replacing them for you.MightyMouse said:
MightyMouse
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RHAGEL said:
Midas sells "lifetime" warranty brakes...would you put them on YOUR car?
Make your own decisions....but the slip fit issue is the reason why I ordered my Corksport over the Draxas/Borla/HKS/Racing Beat....
