Pedal Placement for Heel-Toe in P5

gizzard

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I don't know what the pedal placement for the MSP and MP3 is like, so I'll keep my comments to the P5. (I assume pedal placement is better for those cars since they are more performance oriented.)

I've been practicing heel-toe for the past few weeks and I think I've got it down. But I think it would be easier if the pedal placement were better. Does anyone think that the gas pedal is a bit too low in relation to the brake? I have to press on the brake more than I would like to when downshifting from 4-3, and especially 3-2. This wouldn't be such a big problem for late braking on an open track, but since most of my driving is done on road and highway, I only need moderate braking. I also noticed that in the Best Motoring videos I've seen, the pedals in the high performance cars they drive are at about the same height, giving them better control of braking when downshifting.

Is there any way to adjust the pedals' positioning?
 
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get one of those pedals that are made for heel-toe, the gas pedal sticks out to the left a bit, ive seen em somewhere
 
i had the same problem with my neon
I made a wood spacer to go bettween the arm on the peddle and the throttle cable itself, I havent looked at how it is on my brother's P5 so I dont know if it is similar to my neon
 
with my home made pedals i took off the rubber covers on the brake and clutch when attaching the pedals, and had the plastic gas pedal covered by my aluminum pedal, bringing it up 1/4 of an inch while keeping the brake at the stock level. this change was noticable.
 
you guys need to do some yoga with your ankles... I can heal and toe with any shoe fine on stock pedals
 
I can do it in my brothers car, but the neon is totaly different, my peddal was about an inch and a half lower than the others, my foot cant bend that much :)
 
It's not a problem of doing, because I can do it fine. I just want to be able to control my braking better and not have to contort my ankle to unnatural angles.
 
I have some aluminum pedals that are in stock locations and they work great or heel-toe. These particluar ones have large holes in them and the lower right hole on the brake pedal and the lower left on the clutch have a ring in them that sticks out and has a sharp edge around it, this helps catch the bottom of your shoe when switching between brake and gas as it is easier for it to "catch" your shoe.

Even if it didnt have these I never really have a problem with location. It may be easier with different ones but I feel/see no problems this way either.
 
Pedal placement for me is perfect. I wear a size 10.5 shoe and my feet fit the pedals perfect. I can just slide my heel over and have enough room to hit the gas easy.
 
Usually, I just use the right side of my foot to blip the throttle, while using the left side to press the brake.
 
just gotta get used to it. in the beginning i couldn't heel toe worth crap, the heel of my shoe kept getting caught on the floor, had to press too much on the break, etc. but now it feels so natural and i can do it wearing regular shoes or sandals. it's pretty weird how you can get used to it.
 
Just to be clear, I'm talking about the vertical difference in height, not horizontal. Like I said, I can do it too, but it would be ideal of the gas and brake pedals were level with each other.
 
TheMAN said:
you guys need to do some yoga with your ankles... I can heal and toe with any shoe fine on stock pedals

Same..except for dress shoes. I can even do it bare foot..hehe.
Stock pedals and I actually use my heel to hit the gas unlike other people who use the sides of their feet.
 
gizzard said:
Just to be clear, I'm talking about the vertical difference in height, not horizontal. Like I said, I can do it too, but it would be ideal of the gas and brake pedals were level with each other.


Actually no it wouldn't help..

When you press the brake pedal, it has to travel a certain distance for the brakes to engage. So at the end of the stroke of the brake pedal..it is relatively level w/ the gas pedal and you just move your heel over to tap the gas.

If they were both level..as you press the brake..you're gonna have to move your heel up again to hit the gas. You don't hit the gas/brake at the same time..you have to brake first then heel the gas pedal.
 
actually it is too high for track use but a good height for street use. On the track you are pressing so hard on the brake they get to be the same height.
 
I've driven my buddies BMW 325, and the pedals are so close together I found myself pressing the brake and gas at the same time by accident :) Couldn't figure out why the car was revving when I was coming up to the stop light :p

-Sp
 

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