MSP Exhaust Manifold Design - Input Needed!

[igdrasil]

gotcha, sounds legit. but keep in mind it also needs to be a direct replacement or once again, people wont buy it. good luck with this. hopefully a manifold can be pulled together faster than those twiggy cams.

yeah I know...its not that difficult, you put the flange where it needs to be and its done.

Difficulty will start when testers are needed.

 

[Dugg E Fresh]

Doesn't the problem lie in the fact that the stock MSP turbo sits at an angle and the mani has to account for that? It's not in there straight like the other turbo kits for proteges and others. To be honest, I don't have a clue if that has anything to do with it, that is just one of the things I have heard and also noticed with our setup.
If that is the case, can we look into other mani's, "move" the turbo and fabricate an exhaust? I s'pose that would be quite a bit of work, but without ANY other option...

Edit: Another possibility - If there is a good design that bolts onto our block, any way we can "cut, chop, and rebuild" the flange to be at the right position we need it?

 

[MSP608]

yeah I know...its not that difficult, you put the flange where it needs to be and its done.

Difficulty will start when testers are needed.

not tryna be annoying with all these questions, but im just curious about your manifold. does it line up with the factory egr pipe and have a nice spot for the o2 sensor?

 

[igdrasil]

not tryna be annoying with all these questions, but im just curious about your manifold. does it line up with the factory egr pipe and have a nice spot for the o2 sensor?

Not done yet.

This is not my thread anyway, but you shouldnt worry about the EGR. Once you fab the manifold, then you make the egr bung.

Im not sure if its wise to install the O2 sensor on a tubular manifold, I mean, It can be done, but with most tubulars, runners will go directly to the flange. Thats something to be discussed.-

 

[igdrasil]

Doesn't the problem lie in the fact that the stock MSP turbo sits at an angle and the mani has to account for that? It's not in there straight like the other turbo kits for proteges and others. To be honest, I don't have a clue if that has anything to do with it, that is just one of the things I have heard and also noticed with our setup.
If that is the case, can we look into other mani's, "move" the turbo and fabricate an exhaust? I s'pose that would be quite a bit of work, but without ANY other option...

Edit: Another possibility - If there is a good design that bolts onto our block, any way we can "cut, chop, and rebuild" the flange to be at the right position we need it?

Thats why nothing gets done, because some MSP owners just want a direct swap. A few mm offsed and you get complains of something not fitting perfect.

This requires lots of measurements and test fits but it can be done, it will be expensive of course.

 

[speed whiz]

Thats why nothing gets done, because some MSP owners just want a direct swap. A few mm offsed and you get complains of something not fitting perfect.

This requires lots of measurements and test fits but it can be done, it will be expensive of course.

True enough. why did calloway make it such a tight fit?

 

[speed whiz]

also whats an apexi electronic box??

It takes static electric off the engine sort of like a grounding unit.

 

[speed whiz]

its my favorite thing to do but when i`m on it i try to stay away from the boards!

can I have some ha ha ha!

 

[speed whiz]

judging by your m3 mirrors and tenzo petals you simply have no clue what youre talking about

M3 mirrors you can get at X3 racing.com tenzo racing petals got them from a speed shop. What the hell are u talking about.

 

[speed whiz]

he has the mandatory greddy bow off, is an upgraded to the now discontinued type s blow off...

and he has a box with electronics in it...
s***, that car is mad sick yo'
betta no **** wit it

thanks guy

 

[speed whiz]

lol....

kiss it

 

[speed whiz]

Sorry...the Mazdaspeed Protege has the exact same gears in the tranny as any 2001-2003 LX or ES tranny.....

And yes stock HP for the MSP is 170HP....the MSP motor is referred to as the FS-DET but is exactly the same as any Protege motor from 2001-2003 internally!!!

protegefaq 2nd and 5th gear are a little diffrent in the msp version sr motorsports sells a different type off gearing. Some say its the mazdaspeed protege original gearing.Mazda3 / Protege / MP3 / P5 / Mazdaspeed Performance Parts





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Steel Braided brake line kit

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MazdaSpeed Partial Turbo Kit

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MazdaSpeed Intake and Exhaust cam set

MazdaSpeed intake and exhaust camshafts pair. These MazdaSpeed cams can add up to 18 HP to the 2.0L motor. The MazdaSpeed camshaft set have an increased lift and also in an increase in duration .Very street-able and install with hand tools in a couple of hours.

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MazdaSpeed Intake cam

MazdaSpeed intake camshaft. This MazdaSpeed cam add up to 10 HP to the 2.0L motor. The MazdaSpeed camshafts have an increased lift and also in an increase in duration .Very street-able and install with hand tools in a couple of hours.

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MazdaSpeed Exhaust cam

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High compression pistons.

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[MSP608]

umm incase you couldnt tell we were poking fun at you bc you obviously dont know what youre talking about. and also, congrats on the fact you know how to copy paste.....why the hell would i want tenzo products on my car??

 

[magnumP5]

...garbage...

Ok, first of all I believe you are confusing Mazdaspeed with MPS - Mazda Performace Series. All those parts you just listed from SRMotorsports are either bulls*** (look up SRMotorsports and you'll see what I mean) or they come from the Protege MPS which was N/A in Japan and it's been around for a while. I mean just because one website says "Mazdaspeed this" and "Mazdaspeed that" does not mean these all come stock on the Mazdaspeed Protege. For example, you posted high compression pistons, why the hell would you want a 10:1 compression ration on a turbocharged motor?! Another thing, those camshafts you all so nicely copied and pasted are either bulls*** (again) or they came off the FSZE - an N/A motor...

I just don't see how you can argue that it's a different engine setup when there are members here who have had this car since they came out (not me, but I've read a hell of a lot) who say otherwise. Where the hell is TheMan anyway, he'd clear this up.

Either way, you need to stop copy-and-pasting info that makes you look correct. Just because it says Mazdaspeed or MPS does not mean it is the same motor or model that was sold in the U.S. in 2003 under the name of Mazdaspeed Protege. Sheesh...

 

[jmv]

protegefaq 2nd and 5th gear are a little diffrent in the msp version sr motorsports sells a different type off gearing. Some say its the mazdaspeed protege original gearing.Mazda3 / Protege / MP3 / P5 / Mazdaspeed Performance Parts

well its hard to make a coherent statement out of that, but it seems as though you're suggesting that the protegefaq indicates a different gearing for the MSP vs. a regular protege.... it certainly does not. The G15M-R 5-speed transmission used in the FS-DE, the FS-DET (our mazdaspeed), and the FS-ZE (japans mazdaspeed version), are ALL the same.

Thanks for pointing out that SR sells alternate gear sets and j-spec cams i guess?? I don't understand the point for posting any of that.

 

[msprotege2nr]

I love how this thread went from an exhaust manifold to what it is now..

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

that's what always happens.

 

[MSP608]

welcome to online foruming these days...

 

[msprotege2nr]

well, it doesn't happen on all forums

 

[MSP608]

at least this isnt as bad as dragva