MS3@ Geneva 06.

[chuyler1]

So could we just do a MS6/MS3 ECU swap? What would prevent us from doing so?

 

[Rumpleforeskin]

the same engine will be used in 4-5 different vehicles...even finding it's way into the new Fuzion SVT expected out later this year or early next year....Ford version is rumored to have 300bhp


MS6
MS3
CX7
MPV
Fuzion SVT
etc etc etc...

cost cutting at it's best. Look at what Nissan did with the VQ engines.

 

[solid_snake]

just swap ECUs with a one from the MS6 (first)(thumb)



EDIT: damn too late, somebody already suggested that

 

[chuyler1]

That's what I just asked ^^^ What would prevent us from doing so?

 

[mikeyb]

the same engine will be used in 4-5 different vehicles...even finding it's way into the new Fuzion SVT expected out later this year or early next year....Ford version is rumored to have 300bhp


MS6
MS3
CX7
MPV
Fuzion SVT
etc etc etc...

cost cutting at it's best. Look at what Nissan did with the VQ engines.

The MPV will be gone from Mazda's US lineup. I thought I read that the Fusion SVT will have a hipo V6. How about a 2.3T Focus SVT?

 

[ZoomZoomH]

That's what I just asked ^^^ What would prevent us from doing so?

everything else on the car, the new 32 bit ECU controls EVERYTHING, thus the reason the RX-8's RENESIS has been so difficult to get serious power out of it from the stock ECU...

 

[Rumpleforeskin]

also the MS6 ecu controlls the liquid-cooled AWD system....without this I bet there would be serious issues.

 

[Rogue]

i guess swap the AWD system with shorter driveshaft to the MS3

 

[Rumpleforeskin]

the 3 and 6 aren't on the same chasis....you dont know if any of the rear differential will bolt in...

 

[Rogue]

i remember reading there is an AWD Mazda5, which is a longer version of the Mazda3, so there should be a spot for stuff to bolt up, no?

 

[gun]

damn. i knew it'd come down to this decision after a while. keep the msp or trade (and sell the parts i've just bought and have on) for the ms3?

 

[Rumpleforeskin]

I dunno Luke. the 5 is on a modifed 3 chasis...i dont know what the modifications were though.

Again though....anything is possible depending on how much money you throw at it.

 

[tsunami]

can't wait for the eventual c&d shot out with the gti/ms3/caliber srt/A3

did i miss one? i think those are all the "hot hatches" that are out?

 

[Fede_italiano]

Finally, Mazda is debuting the MS3, but when will it come here

Mazda3 MPS and Mazda Kabura to be Exhibited at the 2006 Geneva International Motor Show

HIROSHIMA, Japan, February 13, 2006--Mazda Motor Corporation will showcase the world premiere of the new high-performance Mazda3 MPS, as well as present the European debut of the Kabura concept vehicle, at the 76th annual Geneva International Motor Show to be held from Tuesday, 28 February through Sunday, 12 March 2006.

Joining them on the Mazda stand will be a Mazda5 Hydrogen RE Hybrid concept vehicle powered by a RENESIS rotary dual-fuel engine - that can use hydrogen or gasoline - and an electric motor, for both outstanding eco-friendliness and Zoom-Zoom driving pleasure.
The new, upgraded Mazda3 line up will be revealed at the Geneva Show as well.

Mazda will hold its press conference at the Mazda stand from 11:45 to 12:00 on Tuesday, 28 February 2006. Detailed information and photos will be made available at that time.

New Mazda3 MPS
The flagship of the Mazda3 range, the all-new Mazda3 MPS, will give sports-minded customers a double dose of Zoom-Zoom driving fun. Mazda3 MPS is the second model in the Mazda Performance Series, following the Mazda6 MPS launched in Europe a month ago. The car will be called Mazdaspeed Axela in Japan, Mazdaspeed3 in North America and, in other key regions including Europe, Australia and New Zealand, Mazda3 MPS.
Mazda looked to embody the three distinct attributes with the new vehicle: Driving Fun, Ownership Delight and Everyday User-Friendly Convenience. With its compact, lightweight body and substantial power generated by its 2.3L MZR DISI TURBO petrol engine, Mazda3 MPS is one of the most powerful high-performance sports compacts with front-wheel drive (FWD) on the road today.

The car's styling pursues a look of strength and solidity in a design that conveys its unmatched dynamic performance at a glance. Mazda3 MPS reflects Mazda's intention to continue delivering Zoom-Zoom in all its products.

Mazda Kabura
Mazda Kabura, which made its global debut at the North American International Auto Show in January 2006, continues the Zoom-Zoom tradition of delivering exhilarating sports cars, while stretching the bounds of interior versatility in radical directions. Designed to appeal to young customers and to support their lifestyles, Mazda Kabura combines the look and feel of an exotic sports car with practicality and affordability, and indicates a possible direction Mazda could take with an exciting compact sports coupe in the future.

I like it. Serious and not ricey.
Maybe in 2 3 years...

 

[Rogue]

looking at the pictures, it may come in both sedan and hatch. The first picture uses a sedan bumper/hood. Compared to a hatch, the sedan grill is part of the bumper, whereas it's part of the hood on a hatch. Does that make sense?

[gray car = sedan / blue car = hatch]

 

[RODSCALIP5]

looking at the pictures, it may come in both sedan and hatch. The first picture uses a sedan bumper/hood. Compared to a hatch, the sedan grill is part of the bumper, whereas it's part of the hood on a hatch. Does that make sense?

[gray car = sedan / blue car = hatch]

Im thinking in the U.S. it will come in Sedan and Hatch. You never know AWD might still be an option. Yes, I know im still asking for too much (thumb) . But according to the Car Rags, the MS3 is geared to compete more against the GTI, SI, SRT than the WRX, EVO etc. It would be nice though.

 

[Antoine]

We all just have to keep in mind one thing: since its the exact same engine as the MS6, then it has the potential of the MS6. Even if it doesnt come from the factory with 274hp, I'm sure with some minor tweaking that we can get it there.

(werd) Great power potential, class leading handling combined with the 3's overall popularity will make the MS3 a winner in my book! If Mazda gets the launch campaign right...This Mazda will be stealing sales away from the SRT-4, GTI and other mainstream sport compacts.

 

[Aricjm15]

(werd) Great power potential, class leading handling combined with the 3's overall popularity will make the MS3 a winner in my book! If Mazda gets the launch campaign right...This Mazda will be stealing sales away from the SRT-4, GTI and other mainstream sport compacts.

I dont think the SRT-4 caliber is going to be any competition being that it is ugly as ****. Although it will have 300hp.
GTI is ugly and lacks the cahones to compete with either.
Civic Si will only realy be able to compete with handling.
Nissan Sentra SER, they made it into a mommy car, looks horrible.
Toyota corrola lacks in every performance area.
Cobalt SS, eh, its a chevy. chevy = lose

 

[tunersteve]

looking at the pictures, it may come in both sedan and hatch. The first picture uses a sedan bumper/hood. Compared to a hatch, the sedan grill is part of the bumper, whereas it's part of the hood on a hatch. Does that make sense?

[gray car = sedan / blue car = hatch]

I just noticed that. Good eye Rogue. There is hope for a sedan. If one is made, I will seriously be considering trading/selling my 3rd Gen for one of these.

 

[susamafone]

uhh i don't know if you noticed, but those AREN'T MS6 wheels.

no, the ms6 wheels are 18 spokes and, personally, look like crap. those are much better